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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Nightwire Since: Feb, 2010
#31001: Apr 18th 2015 at 12:20:49 PM

I just realize: Matt is a lawyer with the ability to tell lies. He's totally Phoenix Wright!

jdj42 Since: Oct, 2012
#31002: Apr 18th 2015 at 12:29:37 PM

Objection!

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Nightwire Since: Feb, 2010
#31003: Apr 18th 2015 at 12:32:58 PM

Nelson & Murdock: Ace Avocados.

edited 18th Apr '15 12:33:10 PM by Nightwire

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#31005: Apr 18th 2015 at 12:58:19 PM

lawyer with the ability to tell lies.
Isn't that a tautology?

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
Wackd Since: May, 2009
#31006: Apr 18th 2015 at 12:59:18 PM

I think what was meant was "a lawyer with the ability to tell when someone's telling lies."

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
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#31007: Apr 18th 2015 at 1:00:10 PM

Oh.

I don't recall Phoenix Wright having that ability, but it's been a while since I played those games.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
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#31008: Apr 18th 2015 at 2:52:45 PM

[up] Aside from his uncanny ability to expose the truth in the courtroom, he gets a mystical Fey family artifact called the Magatama in the second game, which allows him to see locks and chains in front of people when they try to hide the truth (and which become unlocked and disappear when contradictory evidence is presented).

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#31009: Apr 18th 2015 at 3:20:22 PM

In addition to Phoenix, Apollo Justice is able to perceive a person's tells if they're hiding something from him, and Athena Cykes is able to use her enhanced hearing and a specially designed A.I. to read people's emotions.

Miles Edgeworth is forced to use the greatest lawyer superpower of them all...

edited 18th Apr '15 3:20:31 PM by KarkatTheDalek

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#31010: Apr 18th 2015 at 4:02:36 PM

I didn't watch Daredevil and probably won't anytime soon - like Arrow, I hear it's not going to be a part of the larger DC Marvel Cinematic Universe.

I do think that that is Joss's own philosophy for superheroics than a direct shot at DC, by the way.

I wasn't seriously-

If there's one way Man of Steel has irrevocably ruined online discussions about superhero films, that would be it.

I-

Do we need to even show realistic consequences to every single large-scale superhero battle? I thought comic book movies were supposed to be fun.

...

Well that conversation ended quickly. -_-

Hm. On reflection, I think I still stand by what I said about Thor. I think we do see a clear progression of him from being a cocky, arrogant jerk, to being humbled, to him finally becoming more heroic and selfless. I don't think he just turned on a dime. I think we can see a progression of his character arc in the movie.

The MCU clearly doesn't obey this IIR the second Thor film/Avengers correctly, but didn't Comics!Thor need to be holding his hammer to use his powers? Or was it just to fly? Could he fly without it?

I'm sorry, but the way he always has to swing it looked goofy in the EMH cartoon.

edited 18th Apr '15 4:28:55 PM by Soble

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#31011: Apr 18th 2015 at 4:07:23 PM

I'm not sure he actually needs to swing it to fly but it probably helps give him a running start or something.

Actually, have we ever seen Thor fly without the hammer? What if he isn't actually flying but he's using his telekinetic control of Mjolnir to drag him everywhere. I mean, have we seen Thor purely "levitate" or is he always in motion, hammer first?

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Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
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#31012: Apr 18th 2015 at 4:25:48 PM

I hear it's not going to be a part of the larger DC Cinematic Universe.
I should hope not, considering Daredevil is a Marvel property.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#31013: Apr 18th 2015 at 4:28:32 PM

-_-

Typo.

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lackofsense Since: Jan, 2013
#31014: Apr 18th 2015 at 4:29:21 PM

I think Stan Lee did more for his fellow creators. Not enough mind you. They went from almost uncredited to top billing with snappy nicknames that drew attention to them. I think it only became a problem when Stan left full time writing.

My hopes for this possible future series include but are not limited to Shang-chi, Cloak and Dagger, Dethlok, She-Hulk or Ghost Rider(you know you want it)

Admittedly She-hulk will be far more possible after the Netflix stuff comes out.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#31016: Apr 18th 2015 at 4:35:33 PM

[up][up] I don't know if conventional audiences will go for a hero with a name like "She-Hulk", though.

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zsax Since: Mar, 2015
#31017: Apr 18th 2015 at 4:36:13 PM

[up]x6 AFAIK Thor can't fly without his hammer, neither any of the asgardians (Odin included), for that matter. However, Thor still has his other powers, including control over weather, without it. Mjolnir only helps him canalize the cosmic/mystic energies in a much more efficient way.

edited 18th Apr '15 4:36:41 PM by zsax

lackofsense Since: Jan, 2013
#31018: Apr 18th 2015 at 4:38:29 PM

Just call her Jenifer Walters then. Problem solved. A bit of a lampshade and there you go.

The character and her stories are too good not to adapt in my opinion and the name shouldn't be that big of a stumbling block.[up]

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#31019: Apr 18th 2015 at 4:47:22 PM

[up] Oh, agreed on all counts. But if she got her own series, it would make finding a title difficult.

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#31020: Apr 18th 2015 at 4:48:22 PM

If She-Hulk ever went under any alternative titles the way Thor has with Tales of Asgard they could use one of them. Alternatively they could go with something goofy like Jen Walters Attorney at Law.

kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#31021: Apr 18th 2015 at 6:17:31 PM

@Soble

I didn't watch Daredevil and probably won't anytime soon - like Arrow, I hear it's not going to be a part of the larger DC Marvel Cinematic Universe.

You do know that all of these different Marvel Netflix shows are going to team up for the Defenders miniseries, right? On top of that, well, I'll just leave this here. Make of it what you will.

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#31022: Apr 18th 2015 at 6:20:27 PM

Objectively, it also is a part of the larger Marvel Cinematic Universe by virtue of its main plot being directly connected to the Battle of New York in the avengers.

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Ithilgore Since: Jan, 2001
#31023: Apr 18th 2015 at 6:34:40 PM

It's a bit weird to not want to watch Daredevil simply because it's not going to be crossing over with the movies. You can't watch a good show for its own merits?

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#31024: Apr 18th 2015 at 7:41:45 PM

I should also mention that since it's on Netflix, you can watch it at your leisure (presuming, of course, that you have access to Netflix).

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kkhohoho (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#31025: Apr 18th 2015 at 8:10:16 PM

[up]That too. I know some people just binge-watch it, but I just watch one episode about every night, (I just finished Episode 5 yesterday,) and it suits me fine.


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