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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

stingerbrg Since: Jun, 2009
#30851: Apr 14th 2015 at 9:13:26 PM

[up][up]Technically it was introduced in Winter Soldier. Ao S just ran with it.

spashthebandragon thebandragoness from USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
thebandragoness
#30852: Apr 14th 2015 at 9:40:41 PM

Actually, that face-mask technology kinda renders Chameleon's whole shtick moot since literally anyone can be a master of disguise now. I'm picturing him spending years perfecting the special effects art needed to impersonate anyone, and then he sees some SHIELD agent slap on a face mask, and it just breaks his little Russian heart.

I've got fanfics for Frozen, Spectacular Spider-Man, Crash Bandicoot, and Spyro the Dragon.
GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#30853: Apr 14th 2015 at 9:43:36 PM

I could see him as being a tester for those things, but it was permanently bonded too him. Sure, he can do it willingly, but he can no longer take it off or set it to his face......cause reasons.

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#30854: Apr 14th 2015 at 9:44:26 PM

So Agent 33, then.

My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.
GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#30855: Apr 14th 2015 at 9:45:42 PM

No clue. Stopped watching the show after season 1.

TrashJack Confirmed Doomer from beyond the Despair Event Horizon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Confirmed Doomer
#30856: Apr 14th 2015 at 9:45:52 PM

[up][up][up] Alternatively, maybe he was the one who invented the technology in the first place, and he's since made an upgraded version that's harder to detect and that SHIELD doesn't know exists?

edited 14th Apr '15 9:46:24 PM by TrashJack

"Cynic, n. — A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be." - The Devil's Dictionary
GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#30857: Apr 14th 2015 at 9:50:48 PM

Oh, that's good. And it loses the Tragic Villain thing that happens a lot.

edited 14th Apr '15 9:51:47 PM by GethKnight

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#30858: Apr 14th 2015 at 10:10:50 PM

I think they handled the whole matter well enough with Agent 33.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#30859: Apr 14th 2015 at 11:36:56 PM

Also, the current tech only does faces.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#30861: Apr 15th 2015 at 8:24:18 AM

Huh, so both Avengers Chrises (?) are contracted for both halves of Infinity War. Guess they're probably not dying. http://collider.com/avengers-3-4-chris-hemsworth-reveals-marvel-movies-left-on-his-contract/

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#30863: Apr 15th 2015 at 9:38:27 AM

[up][up]

While I agree they are probably not dying (at least not before Infinity War Part 2), the contracts aren't exactly set in stone.

Firstly because the studio is rarely under any real obligation to use an actor they have under contract. They might have to cut them a check, but it will be a trivial amount for a studio that makes hundreds of millions of dollars in a bad year. Sometimes this is with the actor's full consent, if Red Skull turns up again the role is likely to be recast even though Hugo Weaving is technically under contract for two more movies since he doesn't want to return to the role.

Secondly because just because a character is dead doesn't mean they can't show up in the movie. Flashbacks, visions or hallucinations are all pretty common ways for an actor to play a character that is dead at the time the story of the movie is taking place.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
TenebrousGaze Dark Eye from A Shaded Face Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
Dark Eye
#30865: Apr 15th 2015 at 10:40:36 AM

Very nice. I do like costume details, although the Under Armour product placement is a tad bizarre.

edited 15th Apr '15 10:40:53 AM by TenebrousGaze

Galadriel Since: Feb, 2015
#30866: Apr 15th 2015 at 11:11:47 AM

I've read a review of Age of Ultron saying that a major character does die, for good, in the movie, and that it's a big emotional moment.

Given that the review also says that Hawkeye has a larger role and is the heart of the group in the movie, I'd say it's very likely that he's the one who ends up dying. Also, the only other options are Black Widow and War Machine, and it had better not be either of them, because Marvel's got enough diversity issues as it is. The only other possibility is Bruce Banner...which would definitely pack an emotional punch and build up the scale of the threat because everything we've seen up to this point indicates the Hulk can't be killed. It can't be one of the twins, because the audience isn't attached to them enough yet for it to have a big effect.

If they kill off Bruce, I'll be very sad, but it could be a very strong moment. If they kill off Black Widow, I'll be livid.

edited 15th Apr '15 11:12:48 AM by Galadriel

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#30867: Apr 15th 2015 at 11:14:05 AM

Isn't Hawkeye confirmed for Civil War?

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#30868: Apr 15th 2015 at 11:19:22 AM

[up]Yes, he is. So far the ones we know survive thanks to Civil War are Cap, Iron Man, Black Widow, Scarlet Witch, and Hawkeye.

[up][up]If you want I can PM you who the death is. It's not any of the ones you mentioned.

edited 15th Apr '15 11:19:33 AM by comicwriter

GaryCXJk Wants Captain N for SSBU Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Wants Captain N for SSBU
#30869: Apr 15th 2015 at 11:31:42 AM

I have to assume it's Stan Lee.

Signatures are for lamers.
higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#30870: Apr 15th 2015 at 11:32:46 AM

It's gotta be Quicksilver, right? I mean, who else?

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#30871: Apr 15th 2015 at 11:32:47 AM

[up][up] The Stinger is the ghosts of Stan Lee, Jack Kirby, and Steve Ditko smiling at the Avengers ala Return Of The Jedi.

edited 15th Apr '15 11:32:59 AM by comicwriter

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#30872: Apr 15th 2015 at 11:34:19 AM

[up] Two questions:

One, how do you know this, again?

Two, was it, in your opinion, a good idea to do so?

Oh God! Natural light!
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#30873: Apr 15th 2015 at 11:52:45 AM

[up]It was a bold choice and Stan Lee fans will be pissed, but it helps the story.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#30874: Apr 15th 2015 at 11:57:01 AM

@30864 I love whoever does the official artwork for all these movies. It even looks better than the official posters most of the time.

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