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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
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#30752: Apr 13th 2015 at 11:02:25 PM

Actually it was a bit more

"You're alive??"

"I WAS NEVER DEAD! YOU WERE MARRIED TO A SKRULL PRETENDING TO BE ME??"

"They copy down to the DNA! HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO NOTICE!"

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edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Darling.
#30753: Apr 13th 2015 at 11:07:17 PM

I guessed there would be more context, but it's just funnier presented my way.

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MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#30754: Apr 13th 2015 at 11:08:39 PM

Peter Parker might not be white. surprised

I'm putting down hundred dollars that he's white anyways.

edited 13th Apr '15 11:08:47 PM by MadSkillz

Heatth (X-Troper) Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#30755: Apr 13th 2015 at 11:23:10 PM

[up][up][up]Didn't she got substituted after the marriage?

At any rate, Clint had enough time to mourn and move on before she came back. And they kinda did try to work it out before moving into the divorce. It wasn't instantaneously.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#30756: Apr 13th 2015 at 11:26:28 PM

Hmm...Ultron's voice is kind of weird, I'm going to be honest. I hope this is just before they added the proper vocal filters. And I thought he'd be a little more...serious?

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#30757: Apr 13th 2015 at 11:32:13 PM

Yeah Ultron's voice sounds a little too clean.

edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Darling.
#30758: Apr 13th 2015 at 11:33:21 PM

Eh, I'll watch the movie. Sometimes consistency issue can crop up, and Ultron seems to have had that issue for a while.

Computer voice programs have been good for a a while though, so maybe his is just really good.

edited 13th Apr '15 11:34:48 PM by edvedd

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#30759: Apr 13th 2015 at 11:42:12 PM

I admit, I am kinda disappointed that Ultron is just...yet...another...goddamn snarky villain.

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#30760: Apr 13th 2015 at 11:43:38 PM

[up]

It's better than Loki was in the first Avengers, and it makes him have more spice than a lot of MCU villains.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
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#30761: Apr 13th 2015 at 11:46:59 PM

[up][up] How many of those have there been?

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edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Darling.
#30762: Apr 13th 2015 at 11:47:58 PM

Not that many Marvel villains have done the snark thing.

I'm thinking about the villains and I'm honestly drawing a blank thinking of one that was snarky.

edited 13th Apr '15 11:52:48 PM by edvedd

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SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#30763: Apr 13th 2015 at 11:56:03 PM

....

-Thinks-

It feels like there's a lot of them, for some reason...

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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#30764: Apr 14th 2015 at 12:00:20 AM

Amongst Marvel, Loki, Justin Hammer and Aldritch Killian are the ones I can think of.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#30765: Apr 14th 2015 at 12:02:59 AM

Vanko too, kind of.

If you include henchmen, there's Killian's various minions. And if you include AOS, there are some there as well.

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#30766: Apr 14th 2015 at 12:03:17 AM

Justin Hammer was snarky? I thought he was just a doofus.

I wish I could remember Killian's lines but I found him bland.

It makes a lot of sense that Loki and Ultron are snarky though.

The first is the god of mischief and the other is based on Tony Stark's personality.

[up] I wouldn't call Vanko snarky. He may have had a snarky like or two but I wouldn't call him snarky.

edited 14th Apr '15 12:04:03 AM by MadSkillz

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#30767: Apr 14th 2015 at 12:04:29 AM

Stane, Vanko, Hammer, Loki, Red Skull, Killian, Malekith, Pierce/Bucky, Thanos/Ronan/Nebula/Korath, Fisk now.

I'd say a few of those are snarky in their own way, but certainly not in the definitive way Ultron appears. My instinct makes me take him less seriously, but honestly if that gives him more personality than most of the guys listed above...I'm okay with this. I would like a more robot voice though.

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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#30768: Apr 14th 2015 at 12:05:20 AM

Well a lot of villains use sarcasm. It's a common dialogue tool after all, I just listed the ones that use snark constantly.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#30769: Apr 14th 2015 at 12:06:40 AM

[up][up] T Here;s a huge difference between having a snarky line and actually being a snarky character.

Yeah so really people who don't just have snarky lines but are actually snarky there's Loki, Justin, Killian and Ultron.

edited 14th Apr '15 12:07:38 AM by MadSkillz

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#30770: Apr 14th 2015 at 12:07:24 AM

Vanko is very sardonic but also very blunt at the same times, so he's not as much a snarky archetype as someone like Tony.

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#30771: Apr 14th 2015 at 12:07:41 AM

And Alexander "Did you get my flowers" Pierce.

Wackd Since: May, 2009
#30772: Apr 14th 2015 at 12:15:48 AM

In a new interview with MTV (via ComicBook.com), the Marvel Studios head responded to a question about whether we'd see something other than "a white kid that's 15 or 16" playing Spider-Man with a vague, "Maybe. The field is very wide right now in terms of who we're looking at within a certain age range." The implication here is that while we certainly will see a teenage Peter Parker, there's no guarantee he'll be Caucasian.
I really see no reason to believe that this is anything but movie-executive speak for "he'll probably be white but there's no way I'm saying that we're specifically looking for a white actor because that'll make me look like a racist."

edited 14th Apr '15 12:17:26 AM by Wackd

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#30773: Apr 14th 2015 at 12:27:56 AM

At most I imagine them casting a white Latino.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#30775: Apr 14th 2015 at 12:49:21 AM

I am kind of getting tired of it. He is a long established character. They can cast whoever they want in the role, and if it is someone white than that's what the character was all along. So, get a grip, wait for the announcement. If you get what you want, celebrate, if not it's not the end of the world.


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