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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

TrashJack Confirmed Doomer from beyond the Despair Event Horizon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Confirmed Doomer
#30526: Apr 10th 2015 at 5:58:50 PM

[up] Or a random bystander.

"Cynic, n. — A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be." - The Devil's Dictionary
Eagal Since: Apr, 2012
#30527: Apr 10th 2015 at 6:42:44 PM

Or Cap or Tony and then next movie they will be all You didn't think I really died did you? :trollface

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#30528: Apr 10th 2015 at 6:43:40 PM

...Why would Cap or Tony die in Age of Ultron when they're already confirmed to face off against each other in Civil War?

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#30530: Apr 10th 2015 at 7:01:39 PM

Saw the first episode of Daredevil just now.

So far...so good! grin

I was actually really glad that no one dropped the F-Bomb as most TV-MA shows like to do.

And it manages to have that balance of serious and fun that all of the other works set in the MCU has.

It's official. I'm gonna keep going. grin

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#30531: Apr 10th 2015 at 7:12:07 PM

Alternatively it's Jarvis which a lot of people consider a huge spoiler too.

Prowler I'm here for our date, Rose! Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
I'm here for our date, Rose!
#30532: Apr 10th 2015 at 7:21:55 PM

[up][up] Shame. I wanted a nonstop stream of particularly vulgar obscenities.

spashthebandragon thebandragoness from USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
thebandragoness
#30533: Apr 10th 2015 at 7:24:53 PM

The only Netflix show that needs to have lots of swearing is Jessica Jones. It's just not Jessica Jones if the f-bomb's not getting dropped every two seconds.

edited 10th Apr '15 7:59:47 PM by spashthebandragon

I've got fanfics for Frozen, Spectacular Spider-Man, Crash Bandicoot, and Spyro the Dragon.
TrashJack Confirmed Doomer from beyond the Despair Event Horizon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Confirmed Doomer
#30534: Apr 10th 2015 at 7:34:06 PM

[up] Don't forget The Defenders! She's going to be in that, too!

"Cynic, n. — A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be." - The Devil's Dictionary
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#30535: Apr 10th 2015 at 7:53:50 PM

There's a lot of cursing and very liberal usage of "shit" but yeah no F-bombs as far as I can tell. Even in situations where it makes sense they use "Frick" for some reason.

Also someone pointed out to me that there's a neat nod to Steel Serpent that I'm taking as Foreshadowing for Iron Fist.

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Role Model
#30536: Apr 10th 2015 at 8:19:27 PM

I have a feeling I'm going to need to avoid this thread soon.

Eagal Since: Apr, 2012
#30537: Apr 10th 2015 at 8:27:08 PM

@30528: Same reason they "kill off" or "permanently depower" characters in the comics when everyone knows it's just a matter of time before things are back to how they were.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#30538: Apr 10th 2015 at 9:19:26 PM

Even when that happens they usually try to get a couple of years out of the death or replacement.

There's literally no point in killing off Steve or Tony when in just a few months after AOU, we're gonna start getting teasers for a movie starring them that is set to open only a year later.

edited 10th Apr '15 9:19:48 PM by comicwriter

TrashJack Confirmed Doomer from beyond the Despair Event Horizon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Confirmed Doomer
#30539: Apr 10th 2015 at 9:20:45 PM

@wanderlustwarrior: Because of Daredevil, Age of Ultron, or both?

edited 10th Apr '15 9:20:58 PM by TrashJack

"Cynic, n. — A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be." - The Devil's Dictionary
wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#30543: Apr 11th 2015 at 2:23:10 AM

So after finishing Daredevil, it feels like Marvel really is setting up a lower-level universe with the Netflix shows (that is, that they're not all individual shows that only cross over in Defenders, but that characters from each will recur throughout them and their events will influence each other).

Gao, given the hint with her symbol and the hints that there's something... strange, possibly mystical about her towards the end of the series, is probably going to be important to Iron Fist's storyline. I'd bet that Claire is going to show up in Luke Cage and/or Jessica Jones (or even in Iron Fist by association), too, though in different capacities for each. There's probably others - I feel the whole "war" thing Stick was talking about might either be connected to K'un Lun or even be the basis of the plot of Defenders as a whole. And then of course there's Fisk...

Either, Fisk might rival Loki and Winter Soldier as the MCU's most engaging villain thus far. He's definitely an interesting guy - in general, Daredevil stands out by having everyone, even the villains, have developed and even understandable reasons for what they do. It's not Grey-and-Grey Morality as much as having everyone be a character, but it's definitely noticeable.

edited 11th Apr '15 2:36:10 AM by KnownUnknown

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#30544: Apr 11th 2015 at 5:11:19 AM

The many dead girlfriends of Matt. Hopefully a few of them actually survive if they show up in the show in the future.

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#30546: Apr 11th 2015 at 11:24:28 AM

It also confirms Spidey as Pete. Not that that's altogether surprising.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#30547: Apr 11th 2015 at 11:41:33 AM

[up][up][up][up] I'd kinda argue against Winter Soldier being a good villain. Regardless of the technicalities of the term he's basically an Empty Shell and those don't make strong villain material due to their passiveness. Pierce is better qualified for that position, and I personally thought he was a pretty good one if underdeveloped.

edited 11th Apr '15 11:42:02 AM by AlleyOop

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#30548: Apr 11th 2015 at 12:33:19 PM

By which I meant that he's an example of an interesting antagonist with a complex role. Not that he's the main villain of his movie.

edited 11th Apr '15 12:34:22 PM by KnownUnknown

HextarVigar That guy from The Big House Since: Feb, 2015
That guy
#30549: Apr 11th 2015 at 1:56:08 PM

[up]x5

And what worse is he never sees it coming.

Yes, I can do this all day, thank you.

Your momma's so dumb she thinks oral sex means talking dirty.
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#30550: Apr 11th 2015 at 2:03:51 PM

I don't see the point of continuing that line of short-sighted humor so blindly. It's senseless.

edited 11th Apr '15 2:05:16 PM by Anomalocaris20

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!

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