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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#30401: Apr 9th 2015 at 6:08:35 AM

...Oh. Right. It has been done. And with the Alternate Company Equivalent characters, too.

Thing is, the Flash is farther above Green Arrow in my mind than Quicksilver is above Hawkeye.

TenebrousGaze Dark Eye from A Shaded Face Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
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#30402: Apr 9th 2015 at 7:12:25 AM

I think Flash is faster than Quicksilver (I haven't read much for either of them but in JLA/Avengers Flash outran him whenever the speed force was present) so kinda.

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#30403: Apr 9th 2015 at 7:27:27 AM

They both move at the speed of plot.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#30404: Apr 9th 2015 at 7:33:30 AM

[up][up] Flash's top speed is faster than Quicksilver by at least an order of magnitude or two, probably more (Quicksilver tops out at around the speed of sound, iirc, except for in Days Of Future Past), except for when deprived of the Speed Force.

Flash's speed (and the Speed Force in general with its many applications) is one of the most broken things in a universe already full of people with abilities that are broken even by superhero standards.

edited 9th Apr '15 7:35:43 AM by KnownUnknown

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#30405: Apr 9th 2015 at 7:58:44 AM

Canonically Green Arrow also has taken down the Flash (or more accurately an Evil Counterpart of him) through Improbable Aiming Skills so I imagine something similar could work for Hawkeye.

edited 9th Apr '15 7:59:09 AM by comicwriter

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#30406: Apr 9th 2015 at 9:06:51 AM

Vision poster!

Some images of Dr. Cho

[1]

[2]

And the red Daredevil suit.

edited 9th Apr '15 9:15:13 AM by comicwriter

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Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#30407: Apr 9th 2015 at 9:21:22 AM

[up] She looks cool. Hope she doesn't turn out to be a villain or something.

Oh God! Natural light!
higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#30408: Apr 9th 2015 at 9:22:53 AM

RED SUIT~~~~

And the Vision looks awesome! lmao @ the comment that he looks awful.

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#30409: Apr 9th 2015 at 9:24:57 AM

They pointed out she has a another lab in one of the cities that Ultron shows up in so she will probably die bravely figuring out a way to beat him or something along those lines.

Edit: Vision has the same problem that I think Ultron has: they look TOO human. They aren't robots but humans in robo uniforms.

edited 9th Apr '15 9:30:07 AM by LordofLore

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#30412: Apr 9th 2015 at 9:33:11 AM

Why...

As for Cho, I wouldn't worry about her. She's there specifically to court the Asian box office so I can't imagine they'd introduce a single Asian character into the team and then kill her off.

edited 9th Apr '15 9:33:47 AM by comicwriter

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#30413: Apr 9th 2015 at 9:33:24 AM

I really like the look of the Vision. Kind of makes me think of Dr. Manhattan (but without the aversion to pants) in that combination of humanity and alienness.

Ultron is a bit odd looking due to what seems like an Ink-Suit Actor aspect. Although, you definitely get the feeling of "Iron Man suit turned evil".

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#30414: Apr 9th 2015 at 9:34:53 AM

[up][up] Hey, speak for yourself. I really like AOS and it's become really good this season, much better than it was at it's worst in Season 1.

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#30415: Apr 9th 2015 at 9:43:56 AM

The only benefit I see to an Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D. spin-off is getting more focus on the Inhumans.

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#30416: Apr 9th 2015 at 9:54:07 AM

Everyone I would be interested in seeing in a spinoff is a character I don't want to leave AoS to do it.

Like Skye. Or Bobbi. Or Hunter.

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#30417: Apr 9th 2015 at 10:00:32 AM

Vision should look like a ridiculously human robot. That's what he is.

He still looks uncanny because of his red skin and because his default expression is an intense spock glare.

But he should look like a silly man in a silly romper suit.

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#30419: Apr 9th 2015 at 10:12:32 AM

I just don't understand the practical purpose of building your robot body to have a realistic human face. Like, out-of-universe, I know it's so the audience can feel their emotions better or whatever, but in-universe, why would Ultron be all, "Well, I want to wipe out humanity, but first I'd better make sure I have a face these pathetic meat sacks can empathize with"?

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Nightwire Since: Feb, 2010
#30420: Apr 9th 2015 at 10:13:43 AM

Ultron just wants to be a real boy. Alas, twas but a tragic dream, one that could never be.

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#30421: Apr 9th 2015 at 10:14:22 AM

When you look up at me as your cities burn and your nations die, you will see your face, the face of your species, the face of everything you have ever achieved, and you will know that your annihilation is the greatest achievement you have ever made. Human extinction is the final stage of human evolution.

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#30422: Apr 9th 2015 at 10:22:49 AM

[up]I have to wonder how much time and effort Ultron put into building a super realistic human face for no other reason than to look slightly cooler and scarier while he monologued...

Now, Vision, I can kinda understand, since he's supposed to be a robot with real human emotions or something, but Ultron bothering to make a human face? Ehh... Willing Suspension of Disbelief, I guess...

edited 9th Apr '15 10:23:55 AM by spashthebandragon

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#30423: Apr 9th 2015 at 10:26:01 AM

I just don't understand the practical purpose of building your robot body to have a realistic human face. Like, out-of-universe, I know it's so the audience can feel their emotions better or whatever, but in-universe, why would Ultron be all, "Well, I want to wipe out humanity, but first I'd better make sure I have a face these pathetic meat sacks can empathize with"?

Because Ultron was lazy and just stole the Human Torch and then made the Torch's original creator reprogram/repurpose the thing for him.

I believe thats still true in my heart because Byrne can fuck off.

Edit: Oh, if you're talking Ultron then its because thats what his original design ish was and he has the mad narcissism.

edited 9th Apr '15 10:26:57 AM by Bocaj

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#30424: Apr 9th 2015 at 10:28:20 AM

I have to wonder how much time and effort Ultron put into building a super realistic human face for no other reason than to look slightly cooler and scarier while he monologued...

Probably not much. He's a machine, he was probably like, "Calculate optimal intimidation design. Processing processing processing done."

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Nightwire Since: Feb, 2010
#30425: Apr 9th 2015 at 10:30:39 AM

For all of Ultron's hateboner for humanity, he's always been a very human character, with all the associated foibles. At least that's his characterization in the comics anyway.


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