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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#29901: Mar 27th 2015 at 9:44:54 AM

Quicksilver is such a douche. Perfect.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#29902: Mar 27th 2015 at 9:56:20 AM

No lines from Scarlet Witch yet.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#29904: Mar 27th 2015 at 11:22:53 AM

So does that mean Scarlet Witch no longer does real magic?

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#29905: Mar 27th 2015 at 11:25:02 AM

Probably. It looks like they tried to simplify her powers beyond 'Whatever the plot requires'.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#29906: Mar 27th 2015 at 11:25:26 AM

Probably. It looks like they tried to simplify her powers beyond "Whatever the plot requires".

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#29907: Mar 27th 2015 at 11:40:04 AM

The facts said she just has telekinesis and can knock around people's minds to control them.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#29908: Mar 27th 2015 at 12:10:20 PM

It's probably a little early for magic. They're probably waiting for Doctor Strange to go into that.

Anyway, this gave us some interesting insight into Wanda's character. I'm really looking forward to this.

edited 27th Mar '15 12:22:33 PM by KarkatTheDalek

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#29909: Mar 27th 2015 at 12:32:27 PM

Still wanna hear Olsen do the accent thing.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#29910: Mar 27th 2015 at 3:13:02 PM

http://www.buzzfeed.com/adambvary/quicksilver-scarlet-witch-avengers-age-of-ultron-set-visit#.mlXjZqWr10

Whether the pair will become more permanent members of the Avengers family remains unclear. Taylor-Johnson would only say that his status “is sort of up in the air,” and Olsen allowed that her commitment is “this [film], and another.”

Interesting.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#29911: Mar 27th 2015 at 3:29:12 PM

Well there is that ever pesky rumor about Quicksilver.

Olsen's other film is likely Civil War.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#29912: Mar 27th 2015 at 8:16:34 PM

Watching The Nostalgia Critic's review of Daredevil got me thinking.

The whole "Matt Murdock being able to tell when someone's bluffing by hearing their heart rate" thing, was that one of his normal superpowers in the comics?

It is, isn't it?

EDIT: Also, does Foggy Nelson usually know about Matt being DD? No, right?

edited 27th Mar '15 8:20:55 PM by TargetmasterJoe

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#29913: Mar 27th 2015 at 8:36:32 PM

He knows now, but when though a long period where he didn't. He found out when Daredevil's identity was revealed to the world.

Funny bit: in reading his wikipedia article to check that, I just found out that Matt once tried keeping his identity secret by pretending to be his own twin brother, which might be the poster for "desperate con idea that no one ever buys." It apparently worked, too. For a while.

edited 27th Mar '15 8:36:46 PM by KnownUnknown

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#29914: Mar 27th 2015 at 8:46:44 PM

DareDevil's secret identity has been an open secret for a while. He's had to put that genie back in the bottle three times, and people long since stopped believing his claims of not being DareDevil. There was a long period where he'd wear shirts saying "Not DareDevil" and insist he wasn't, while random people on the street addressed him as DareDevil and inquired about recent superhero events and stuff.

On one occasion, Spider-Man swung down and started a conversation with him in broad daylight in the middle of a crowd because he forgot Murdock technically had a secret identity, Paper-Thin Disguise as it was. Every now and then, you'd hear mention of things like two characters meeting "at Matt Murdock's Totally Not DareDevil Barbecue."

He's since let go of even the Paper-Thin Disguise and is publicly DareDevil, because there are only so many times you can be outed before your secret identity is Lost Forever.

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#29915: Mar 27th 2015 at 9:45:41 PM

...Thanks for answering my second question.

But to avoid having my original question buried, I'll just ask again:

Watching The Nostalgia Critic's review of Daredevil got me thinking.

The whole "Matt Murdock being able to tell when someone's bluffing by hearing their heart rate" thing, was that one of his normal superpowers in the comics?

It is, isn't it?

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#29916: Mar 27th 2015 at 9:57:56 PM

When Frank Miller expanded most of Daredevil's abilities, he attempted to make them "extraordinary enough to be exciting, but not on par with Superman", noting Superman's distinctly unbelievable powers. When Miller joined the title in 1979, the first thing he did to the character was "revamp" his radar sense and made it less distinct and more believable; he wanted Daredevil to have the "proximity" sense that some martial artists claim to have. Because of this, he created an ability for Daredevil to hear the Hulk's heartbeat four blocks away. Due to the character's sensitive sense of touch, Daredevil can read by passing his fingers over the letters on a page though laminated pages prevent him from reading the ink. Daredevil has commonly used his superhuman hearing to serve as a lie detector for interrogation by listening for changes in a person's heartbeat. This ability can be fooled if the other person's heart is not beating at a natural rate, such as if they have a pacemaker.

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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#29917: Mar 27th 2015 at 10:16:52 PM

Or if the person just has a out-of-pace heart, an actual medical condition (that I'm probably misnaming) in which the person's heart beats in a irregular manner, skipping beats at random. Which essentially renders heart-rate-lie-detectors even more useless than they already are.

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#29918: Mar 27th 2015 at 10:21:29 PM

[up] So it was a thing in the comics. Good, I was starting to think that maybe it was something they put for the movie.

Anyway, something else I wanted to ask. Emma Stone as Black Cat. Something that can work given what they're planing for Spidey in the MCU? Or one of those "if only" scenarios?

Don't know if anyone's getting sick of talking about the possibility of having ASM alumni showing up in the MCU in some form, but let's be honest, who wouldn't want to see Emma in the MCU?

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#29919: Mar 27th 2015 at 10:24:01 PM

Depends on what kind of contracts they signed up for. I know they're out of a Sony job now so said contracts probably won't apply, but I believe actors are not allowed to show up in a Marvel or DC film if they signed up for the other.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#29920: Mar 27th 2015 at 10:25:18 PM

Emma Stone gets cast... as a Spider-Girl from an alternate universe, when Kang the Conqueror makes a surprise appearance in Civil War.

edited 27th Mar '15 10:25:25 PM by KnownUnknown

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#29921: Mar 27th 2015 at 10:39:16 PM

[up][up] IIRC, Marvel wanted a teenager for Spidey, but Sony wanted some 20-something year old...unless my memories are a little off?

Has Black Cat ever been established as being older than Peter or about the same age or what?

I believe actors are not allowed to show up in a Marvel or DC film if they signed up for the other.

...Yeah, no offense, but I'm kinda not really seeing what that has to do with anything that I asked.

Also, anybody think the MCU will take a stab at the Hobgoblin since Sony apparently thought there was only one Goblin related Spidey villain?

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#29922: Mar 27th 2015 at 10:58:19 PM

There are multiple actors who have done both Marvel and DC roles but most of them were before the establishment of the MCU.

I'm not sure if there's anything in the contract but I can't imagine it's something either company would be happy about.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#29923: Mar 28th 2015 at 12:34:18 AM

Watching The Nostalgia Critic's review of Daredevil got me thinking.

Bit of a random question, but did he mention Toph Beifong at all? I only ask because he's an Avatar fan and I can see him at least making one reference.

Oh God! Natural light!
TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
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#29925: Mar 28th 2015 at 7:57:20 AM

Has Black Cat ever been established as being older than Peter or about the same age or what?

Not said if it's been stated in the classic Marvel Universe or not, but in other cases, it varies: the Ultimate Spider Man comic has her older, Word of God said the Cat in The Spectacular Spider-Man is 19, and both Spider-Man Loves Mary Jane and Spider-Man: The Animated Series have her as the same age (and in the former case, the same grade).

edited 28th Mar '15 7:58:56 AM by Anicomicgeek

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