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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

TenebrousGaze Dark Eye from A Shaded Face Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
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#29776: Mar 24th 2015 at 10:12:56 AM

What the heck were they thinking with the incursion plotline? It's the most absurd extent of serial escalation.

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#29777: Mar 24th 2015 at 10:35:18 AM

They were thinking, "Well, we already got our Superman, now it's time to do Crisis on Infinite Worlds. Clearly the MCU's success is not an indication that people are interested in our characters on their own merits; we must ape everything our Distinguished Competition has ever done."

edited 24th Mar '15 10:35:48 AM by TobiasDrake

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#29779: Mar 24th 2015 at 10:39:55 AM

Its funny because DC is copying Marvel copying DC.

But it goes deeper. This is all leading to Secret Wars which was Marvel's initial copying DC's Crisis but more in 'company wide crossover.'

So now they're copying the 'multiverse gets wiped out' from Crisis and calling the end result Secret Wars which is what their original Crisis copy was called and DC is copying the multiverse gets wiped out thing from Marvel from DC.

Comics!

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#29780: Mar 24th 2015 at 10:43:05 AM

[up] Shit like that is exactly how we got Street Fighter: The Movie: The Game!

edited 24th Mar '15 10:43:14 AM by TobiasDrake

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#29781: Mar 24th 2015 at 10:47:22 AM

Clearly they missed a chance here.

Large swathes of the multiverse being wiped out.

Imagine, a new JLA/Avengers where Eternity and Kismet meet while recovering from grievous bodily harm at the hospital.

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#29782: Mar 24th 2015 at 11:18:42 AM

Just wanted to ask a sincere Daredevil-related question, did anyone complain when Fox announced that they casted Michael Clarke Duncan as The Kingpin for Daredevil?

Also, Kelly Sue De Connick potentially writing the Captain Marvel movie? Yes please! grin

edited 24th Mar '15 11:26:00 AM by TargetmasterJoe

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#29783: Mar 24th 2015 at 11:30:15 AM

I don't remember that much. There were a few rumblings from some people who thought the Kingpin being Race Lifted into a Scary Black Man had racist implications, but according to Word of God it was just because he was the tallest person for the job. Whatever it was, I doubt it compares to the reactions over Jamie Foxx Electro, where you've got both racists livid that "the SJ Ws turned Electro into a n****r!" and people on the other side upset that they made it so a black man was playing the villain. I don't know enough about Ultimate Electro to know if it really was a Race Lift or not, but it would be pretty hilarious if all this rage was being generated over Cowboy BeBop at His Computer.

edited 24th Mar '15 11:40:34 AM by AlleyOop

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#29784: Mar 24th 2015 at 11:42:03 AM

[up]x6

Given the source of that rumor I'm naturally very skeptical. However one of the convenient things about Carol Danvers being a fighter pilot in her backstory is that it's very easy for her character to cameo in any movie that includes a large scale threat, even if they haven't cast the role. So I'm definitely not ruling out an Age of Ultron cameo.

edited 24th Mar '15 11:42:21 AM by Falrinn

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#29785: Mar 24th 2015 at 11:45:16 AM

[up][up]Ah. For some reason, I pictured some people have gone "Argh! They didn't get his skin color right! Fail!" or something like that.

Sooo...

Anyone particularly hyped for Ant-Man and Paul Rudd as Scott Lang? I really don't know the general consensus for him. Is it a case of "If he's got a good director, he's good" or what?

EDIT: Has Paul even read Marvel Comics before?

edited 24th Mar '15 11:52:47 AM by TargetmasterJoe

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#29786: Mar 24th 2015 at 11:50:13 AM

[up][up][up][up]The general consensus is that MCD was the best thing about that movie. There probably was some backlash but in the end a lot of critics and even fans came around to liking him.

edited 24th Mar '15 11:50:31 AM by comicwriter

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#29787: Mar 24th 2015 at 11:52:16 AM

I'm thinking Rhodey might make mention of a Lt. Danvers flying out to deal with the Ultron menace, even if she doesn't necessarily show up on screen. Would be a much better way to segue into a possible Rhodey/Carol romance than the comics where it seemed to come out of nowhere.

As for De Connick writing, I'm kind of lukewarm on that. She's not bad, definitely miles above Jason Aaron and his cringeworthy run on female Thor, but I still find her Carol kind of bland. And the retconning away of some of Carol's flaws which made her more interesting like her alcoholism (which could've gotten a better treatment in the films than Iron Man 2 did) doesn't sit well with me.

edited 24th Mar '15 11:52:36 AM by AlleyOop

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#29788: Mar 24th 2015 at 11:55:45 AM

[up] That was retconned? How?

In any case, MovieBob's right.

COMICS! ARE! WEIRD!

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#29789: Mar 24th 2015 at 11:57:37 AM

[up] Well, not really retconned so much as it's suddenly no longer a thing.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#29790: Mar 24th 2015 at 12:02:26 PM

[up]Wait, you mean they don't mention it at all or they just flat out said "Oh yeah, she never had an alcohol problem"?

...And I thought I heard good stuff about her run on Captain Marvel. tongue

Also, to avoid a previous question of mine getting buried, allow me to ask this again:

Anyone particularly hyped for Ant-Man and Paul Rudd as Scott Lang? I really don't know the general consensus for him. Is it a case of "If he's got a good director, he's good" or what? EDIT: Has Paul even read Marvel Comics before?

edited 24th Mar '15 12:04:13 PM by TargetmasterJoe

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#29791: Mar 24th 2015 at 12:15:04 PM

I'm hype.

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#29792: Mar 24th 2015 at 12:21:40 PM

More or less forgotten, even though it was a serious problem she had to deal with. Supposedly Carol is still supposed to have problems with addiction but whatever they are I feel like it's not being conveyed very well.

Don't get me wrong, it's not bad, but I feel like it could've been a lot more, y'know? Carol is fun but a little generic, when they could've used the chance to really redefine her the way Brubaker did with Bucky, or Fraction did with Hawkeye.

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#29793: Mar 24th 2015 at 12:28:55 PM

Well since she exists in the same setting as Tony Stark though its just defining her in a way someone else already is.

Unless they go to support group together. That would be swell.

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#29794: Mar 24th 2015 at 12:35:37 PM

I hate to make it sound like I'm asking the same question over and over, but really...

Paul Rudd as Scott Lang.

Yay or Nay?

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#29795: Mar 24th 2015 at 12:45:15 PM

Haven't watched most of Rudd's films as they're not to my sense of humor but eh, why not. He seemed fine in the trailers.

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#29797: Mar 24th 2015 at 1:34:56 PM

Mark 45 if my Armor post for later this week is correct(I think a LEGO set spoiled it along with Hulkbuster being Mark 44).

Edit: Duh, it says it right on that picture.

edited 24th Mar '15 1:35:32 PM by LordofLore

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#29798: Mar 24th 2015 at 1:41:10 PM

[up][up][up][up] I like Paul Rudd, both as an actor and as a person, so definitely Yay for me.

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#29799: Mar 24th 2015 at 1:44:09 PM

I mean, if Mark Ruffalo loves him, I can't not like him.

But I'm lukewarm on Antman in general.

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#29800: Mar 24th 2015 at 2:11:23 PM

I'm just glad they fixed the coloring on it after that atrocious Mark 42.

God that thing was ugly.

edited 24th Mar '15 2:11:41 PM by TobiasDrake

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