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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#29501: Mar 19th 2015 at 5:35:47 PM

Half the audience would mishear it as "Iraq" and the nerd percentage would immediately start writing angry forum posts about how Qurac is a DC place location.

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#29502: Mar 19th 2015 at 5:59:26 PM

Whedon teases that there are some additional Marvel characters in AOU that haven't yet been seen in any of the trailers, posters, or promo stuff. He could just be talking about the cameos we know of already like Falcon and Peggy Carter, though.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#29503: Mar 19th 2015 at 6:15:50 PM

We know Klaue has officially been confirmed, but I'm hoping for an appearance from T'Chaka or any of Black Panther's other entourage, since it looks like they'll be spending a significant amount of time in Wakanda.

Or maybe Bucky will get a brief cameo. He's kind of the big white elephant in the room as far as dangling plot threads go, and a whole year is kind of a long time for him to be Walking the Earth.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#29504: Mar 19th 2015 at 6:18:42 PM

Bucky is eating at a hot dog stand when an Ultron drone is thrown through it.

Ekuran Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#29505: Mar 19th 2015 at 6:29:32 PM

Nah, he's eating at a shawarma joint two blocks from the action.

edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Darling.
#29506: Mar 19th 2015 at 6:30:21 PM

That train/bus scene with Quicksilver was in other trailers, but it looks very different here. He's definitely got the 'tude.

And did Cap just flip-throw a motorcycle?

edited 19th Mar '15 6:35:33 PM by edvedd

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BBrown052 Since: May, 2012
#29507: Mar 19th 2015 at 6:42:59 PM

[up][up][up]I misread that as "bucky is eating a hotdog stand".

I think its better that way.

edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#29509: Mar 19th 2015 at 6:54:37 PM

From last page:

Following the events of Age of Ultron, the collective governments of the world pass an act designed to regulate all superhuman activity. This polarizes opinion amongst the Avengers, causing two factions to side with Iron Man or Captain America, which causes an epic battle between former allies.

The individual countries are doing this separately or Hollywood really, really likes to overhype the effectiveness of the UN. Hell, the US won't even sign a treaty through the UN when it's our own damn thing to begin with.

edited 19th Mar '15 6:55:02 PM by GethKnight

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#29510: Mar 19th 2015 at 6:58:34 PM

[up]x5

While he's probably referring to Heimdall, Loki, and the Falcon, I still don't think cameo from the Ao S cast (most likely Coulson) is entirely impossible. I know he's said we won't see him because of Continuity Lock-Out concerns, but it wouldn't be the first time I've seen a statement like that turn out to be a deflection.

The continuity lockout can probably be sidestepped by giving the 15 second version. They don't need to explain the entire first season-and-a-half of Ao S. Just Fury saying "Yes he was dead, so I went through a lot of trouble to make him not dead." would be sufficient.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#29511: Mar 19th 2015 at 7:00:28 PM

It would be narratively terrible, however, and feel like a cop-out and an Ass Pull for anyone who didn't supplement the movies with the tv show. Which is why they're not doing it to preserve continuity.

I wouldn't put it past Coulson's team to appear in a stinger or something, however, but that would be lead-in to something they're likely never going to actually follow up on (not that that stopped them with "Hail To The King"), so maybe not.

edited 19th Mar '15 7:02:10 PM by KnownUnknown

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#29512: Mar 19th 2015 at 7:10:29 PM

I misread that as "bucky is eating a hotdog stand".

"Bucky, no! It's impossible for you to eat a hotdog stand!" "If I don't, Steve, I'll die!"

edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#29514: Mar 19th 2015 at 7:14:08 PM

[up][up][awesome][lol]

edited 19th Mar '15 7:14:18 PM by higherbrainpattern

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#29515: Mar 19th 2015 at 7:40:06 PM

[up][up][up] Dude, don't spoil the plot of Civil War like that. smile

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#29516: Mar 19th 2015 at 7:42:34 PM

[up][lol]

More spoilers:

Tony: "I can eat your shield."

Steve: "I can eat your armors. All of them."

CAPTAIN AMERICA: CIVIL WAR

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#29517: Mar 19th 2015 at 7:44:33 PM

The individual countries are doing this separately or Hollywood really, really likes to overhype the effectiveness of the UN. Hell, the US won't even sign a treaty through the UN when it's our own damn thing to begin with.

Heh. Is there a trope for Hollywood Government Effectiveness?

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#29519: Mar 19th 2015 at 8:46:34 PM

I actually misread that as "Bucky is eating a hot dog stand" as well.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
DrFurball Since: Jan, 2001
#29520: Mar 19th 2015 at 9:09:59 PM

I'm getting some vibes of Pietro being a smug douchebag. GOOD. Some good character moments from Tony, Steve, and especially Thor (love the hammer/shield combo).

Wish they'd show us some more Hawkeye snark, but I guess I'll have to continue waiting for the movie itself.

DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
The Ultimate Lifeform
#29521: Mar 19th 2015 at 9:24:56 PM

I'm just happy Hawkeye finally talked.

When we're done, there won't be anything left.
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#29522: Mar 20th 2015 at 12:46:47 AM

Considering that there is a council in "The Avengers" I assume that in the Marvel world there is some kind of world government at least in the sense that there might be some power able to pass laws when it comes to special issue, like superpowered people and aliens.

edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Darling.
#29523: Mar 20th 2015 at 1:38:50 AM

@Dr: All his facial expressions during his screen time in the trailer just screamed 'douche'. I love it.

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Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#29524: Mar 20th 2015 at 9:20:23 AM

The individual countries are doing this separately or Hollywood really, really likes to overhype the effectiveness of the UN. Hell, the US won't even sign a treaty through the UN when it's our own damn thing to begin with.

To be fair, Americans in general do tend to overestimate just how much power the UN actually has. Something about a "nebulous world council" puts us on edge, which is kinda hilariously ironic, considering the US funds most of the UN's budget.


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