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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
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It's not fanfiction. It's a live-action Marvel Universe, created by Marvel. Of course it's not going to be the same as the comics; besides being convuluted as hell, comics contain a lot of extraneous elements that are unnecessary or nigh-impossible to adapt on the big screen.
edited 17th Mar '15 6:40:22 PM by higherbrainpattern
Apologies. That is why is used the *almost*. I'm not saying you can't enjoy both, I'm just saying that expecting MCU to be in complete synch with the 616 is probably not the best idea. I mean, I never knew Black Widow was a founding member, I never realized that Ultron was made of Vibranium instead of Adamantium, heck I ignored the fact that a cosmic cube was an infinity gem, or... stone. Don't get me wrong, I like both Hank and Janet (Janet better than Hank), but this is just an adaptation, so changes will be made.
edited 17th Mar '15 6:45:28 PM by zsax
I'm not sure if having a Wasp and Hank Pym movie in 2010 or 2012 would have made the MCU a more compelling story; the characters don't lend themselves to world building anymore than any other property.
Sure you could lay out ground work for Ultron and the Vision, but outside of explaining who Wonderman was (and possibly his brother The Grim-Reaper too) and, well, building Ultron, there's not much really to be done there. Avengers 2 seems pretty confident in it's ability to introduce those characters anyway.
Also, perhaps it'll affect Hank Pym's story potential if he doesn't have as close a tie with Ultron, but MARVEL's been coy on that, it's perhaps still true that Ultron is based off his brain waves and in which case the relationship between the characters are still valid. Ultron is a horrifying reminder that Hank has some kind of mental disorder in that case.
I get the feeling that had the ANT-MAN film gotten its original 2010 release that it might have been Hank Pym who got mind controlled into making a Tesseract portal, and Hawkeye would have had a reduced, strait up antagonist role while Janet had his role on the Avengers.
Pretty much any Marvel Comics since Lee, Kirby, and Ditko stopped writing is fanfiction, iddnit? If we define fanfiction as "fiction written by fans" rather than, y'know, "something losers on the Internet do for no money."
Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.Just, unleash the fans who write that stuff on a blockbuster movie budget. It would have like a fifty/fifty shot of being really great or utterly terrible.
"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."You just described literally everything that ever existed.
I really don't like how people look down on fanfiction, and fanwork in general so much. It just seems really shitty to me. These people are taking the time to express themselves, creatively, with something they love. Is it really necessary to shit on them?
I mean, unless it's something like Garfield Effect.
Which is still kinda great in its own weird, super sexist way.
Is anyone else at least a little concerned about how the MCU Netflix shows seem to be scoring TV-MA-ish ratings?
I know it's most likely because they'll touch on stuff that they couldn't throw into PG-13 movies, but part of me is worried that they'll drop F-bombs every 5-10 minutes because of the ratings.
I mean, Kingpin was caving in people's heads with his own dome in that Daredevil trailer. I assume that would be violent.
edited 17th Mar '15 8:14:25 PM by edvedd
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Well, I know that, but won't the TV-MA ratings hurt DD, JJ, LC, and IF's chances at making potential cameos in future movies?
Another thing I wanted to ask.
Does anyone get the feeling that the more info we get on Captain America: Civil War, the more it seems less like a Captain America movie and more like Avengers 2.5? Not that that's a bad thing or anything, just something I noticed.
edited 17th Mar '15 8:14:21 PM by TargetmasterJoe
That will probably how things will get the further we go along.
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Hmm, they're probably not using the term Avengers to avoid having people assume it'll raise the bar higher than Age of Ultron will inevitably raise it.
Also, just found out from reading the Tropes page on CA: CW that Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, and Iron Fist won't show up.
...That kinda sucks.
How could the Avengers fighting each other not be seen as a worthy followup to Ultron? I also don't like that they're not giving the team splitting up more time to impact the universe.
edit: I'm kind of glad they're not in there. We don't know how popular their shows will be and CW already has too many characters in my opinion.
edited 17th Mar '15 8:27:16 PM by Kostya
With any luck, Civil War will impact the shows enough to have at least half a season focusing on how it impacts them; at the very least Daredevil can have an arc about it. I don't know how much the main movies impact Agents of Shield since I don't watch it, but I hope there's a strong enough connection between the Netflix shows that they at least get name-dropped or something.
The films seem to utterly ignore Ao S (which is fine by me), but I don't want the same to happen with the Netflix shows.
"A king has no friends. Only subjects and enemies."

I don't feel anything. The way I see it, MCU is just an alternate Earth. It's almost *almost* fanfiction, no offense. They can do whatever the heck they want. Well, except turning... No, nevermind.
edited 17th Mar '15 6:16:03 PM by zsax