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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#29226: Mar 15th 2015 at 10:22:19 AM

[up][up]It was definitely a big rumor, you're not imagining it. A lot of fuel was added to to the fire when a company put an ad in a comic showing a Grey Hulk figure (which otherwise could have just been an unrelated repaint) and Marvel responded by forcing them to pulp all the books with the ad in it.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#29228: Mar 15th 2015 at 2:43:57 PM

I forget, was the scope of the original event also international or was it mostly just an American thing?

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#29229: Mar 15th 2015 at 2:48:33 PM

There are almost no(not counting mutants, canadians, Captain Britain or Wakanda)super heroes living outside the US in Marvel.

The act that caused Civil War just happened in the US(hell, the rest of the universe thought the fight was really stupid since it was small potatoes compared to the other big event at the time(Annihilation)).

edited 15th Mar '15 2:54:10 PM by LordofLore

GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#29230: Mar 15th 2015 at 2:50:26 PM

Didn't Beast move to France and was universally loved over there?

Ekuran Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#29231: Mar 15th 2015 at 2:52:43 PM

Nevermind, didn't get you were talking about the comic.

edited 15th Mar '15 2:55:58 PM by Ekuran

Heatth (X-Troper) Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#29232: Mar 15th 2015 at 3:00:20 PM

[up][up]That was the Thing. The Beast, like most X-Men, didn't got involved as the law didn't actually effect him. In fact, there was an oldish storyline in which the X Men fought but failed to prevent a mutant registration act. Cyclops and Emma Frost were quick to remember the super-hero community didn't help them then either.

[up][up][up]There are plenty super heroes outside the US. It is just we never get to see them.

[up][up][up][up]Just an USA thing. In fact, the Canadian heroes commented how silly it was they were fighting over it as there was a similar law in Canada for years.

edited 15th Mar '15 3:02:14 PM by Heatth

GoukaRyuu Since: Aug, 2012
#29233: Mar 15th 2015 at 3:00:53 PM

[up][up][up]The Thing. He met the Heroes of Paris, a group of superheroes from across France that gathered together in the city to protect the country from threats. All the heroes are clearly based off of DC characters.

Edit: And [nja]

edited 15th Mar '15 3:01:18 PM by GoukaRyuu

NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#29234: Mar 15th 2015 at 3:02:07 PM

[up][up]Wasn't that the same law that basically allowed Department H to violate the human rights of the superhumans over years and years?

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#29235: Mar 15th 2015 at 3:02:25 PM

Hell, 80 percent of Marvel Superheroes don't exist outside of New York.

My various fanfics.
Heatth (X-Troper) Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#29236: Mar 15th 2015 at 3:03:17 PM

[up][up]Probably. Marvel!Canada is evil. Somehow the Alpha Flight are content to work for the government, though, so whatever. I am not much familiar to that side of the universe.

[up]Of the important ones, sure.

edited 15th Mar '15 3:04:46 PM by Heatth

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#29237: Mar 15th 2015 at 3:03:47 PM

Beast became really popular when he became an Avenger by which I mean his blue fur drove girls wild and they would accost him on the street to try to get some of that sweet lovins.

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#29238: Mar 15th 2015 at 3:06:52 PM

[up]Well they made that joke in First Class about men with big feet...

Marvel does have heroes outside the U.S. but they are just perpetually Out of Focus. In the film it'd make sense if other countries had heroes of some sort so that it isn't JUST the Avengers being affected by the concept of registration.

edited 15th Mar '15 3:07:04 PM by comicwriter

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#29239: Mar 15th 2015 at 3:07:56 PM

[up][up][up][up][up][up][up]Well, we did get to see what Europe's Avengers were like for a few issues(they couldn't come up with a team of already known european superheroes who still lived there so they created everyone from scratch).

edited 15th Mar '15 3:08:13 PM by LordofLore

Heatth (X-Troper) Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#29240: Mar 15th 2015 at 3:10:07 PM

[up]Yeah, they do that a lot. Whenever a lot of international super heroes are necessary, they just create a bunch of people and say "they were there all along". It is kinda silly, but the clear implication is that there is always a bunch of super people in every country. The USA have, in story, more than anyone else, though.

NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#29241: Mar 15th 2015 at 3:11:01 PM

To be honest, DC is just as bad if not even worse about their international heroes; it's just they're more all over the USA (and even so, the Northern East Coast still dominates easily) instead of being New York-focused.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#29242: Mar 15th 2015 at 3:13:41 PM

But this is the MCU...I think we can safely assume that Superheroes are not a common thing (yet), and that there are only a few super-trained people who work for various agencies. There will pop up more in the upcoming years, since a lot of the superpowered people have been in hiding so far. With the implication that you can reach more or less every part of the world at a moments notice with the helicarriers, I don't think that it matters THAT much, as long as they add some different nationalities to the various teams. They kind of started in the direction with all the European agents in Ao S.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#29243: Mar 15th 2015 at 3:27:42 PM

AOS showed that there were superhumans well before the Avengers, but SHIELD did everything possible to hide them from the rest of the world. And we know it was not just an American situation because one of the first supervillains the team fights is a pyrokinetic villain from China.

It would make sense that in a post-Avengers world (and two years after the fall of SHIELD) that there'd be less keeping these people from stepping out of the shadows.

[up][up][up], [up][up][up][up] They made another attempt more recently. This time they at least avoided the Remember the New Guy? trope and made sure to establish they were a new team.

edited 15th Mar '15 3:30:03 PM by comicwriter

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#29244: Mar 15th 2015 at 3:30:10 PM

Coulson said that the list is very short. And there is a difference between people who have powers and people who actually go out and act as superheroes. The people on the list were not allowed to go freelancing (apparently Fury didn't consider them fit for the avenger initiative).

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#29245: Mar 15th 2015 at 3:33:29 PM

Right and now it's two years later. Things can and likely will have changed.

In fact one would thing the logical response to the Avengers would be other people around the world with similar abilities attempting the same thing within reason.

edited 15th Mar '15 3:33:44 PM by comicwriter

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#29246: Mar 15th 2015 at 3:34:19 PM

[up]That's why I wrote that there will be more popping up over time.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#29247: Mar 15th 2015 at 3:36:02 PM

We were discussing it as it pertains to Civil War and I said two years is not too soon to broach the subject.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#29248: Mar 15th 2015 at 3:39:17 PM

[up]That's assuming that Ao U and Civil War are both set in the years they are released.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#29249: Mar 15th 2015 at 3:39:57 PM

[up]I can't imagine the dates are too far off given that most of the MCU movies have taken place in the years they were released (barring the obvious case of The First Avenger).

It is kinda silly, but the clear implication is that there is always a bunch of super people in every country. The USA have, in story, more than anyone else, though.

There was a story where the Avengers teamed up with a heroine from Korea and it was jokingly mentioned that other countries have their own heroes, but none of them spend the amount of money or have fights on the scale of stuff the Americans do.

edited 15th Mar '15 3:41:12 PM by comicwriter

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#29250: Mar 15th 2015 at 3:41:27 PM

[up]x7 Did most of them die horribly to show that the villain of the weak wasn't to mess with like usual for new, never before seen, heroes?

edited 15th Mar '15 3:41:39 PM by LordofLore


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