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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

deathpigeon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
#29201: Mar 13th 2015 at 12:50:57 AM

They should totally do a Hulk movie about the Leader.

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#29202: Mar 13th 2015 at 6:27:00 AM

As the likelihood of an Incredible Hulk 2 is currently hovering somewhere in the vicinity of "Power Pack movie" and "Wolverine joins the Avengers," I'm gonna say they should totally do a Leader episode of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., because that plot point will never be followed through in the films.

edited 13th Mar '15 6:29:50 AM by TobiasDrake

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deathpigeon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
#29203: Mar 13th 2015 at 6:28:20 AM

wild mass guess The Leader is behind the Civil War and Thanos. wild mass guess

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#29204: Mar 13th 2015 at 6:29:54 AM

  • COULSON: Good work catching the Leader, team. Any other loose ends need to be tied up?
  • MAY: None that I can think of. We defeated the Leader, caught Snowflake, discovered the secret history of Howard Stark and Anton Vanko, and apprehended the True Mandarin; turns out he was also a pompous English actor posing as a front for Hydra all along, but then he was assassinated by agents for a pompous English actor posing for The Hand. It's turtles all the way down.

edited 13th Mar '15 6:31:23 AM by TobiasDrake

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Nightwire Since: Feb, 2010
#29205: Mar 13th 2015 at 6:32:22 AM

I knew it! The British Empire was behind everything.

DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
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#29206: Mar 13th 2015 at 6:35:21 AM

Damn those Brits!

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#29207: Mar 13th 2015 at 8:21:03 AM

Apparently Universal Pictures still owns the right of distribution to Hulk movies, and I've heard that's a contributing factor to why there's not going to be any new Hulk films. The other probably being that Hulk historically works better as part of an ensemble cast, Peter David's stories aside.

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#29209: Mar 13th 2015 at 8:53:06 AM

[up][up]That begs the question if there is an expiration date to this rights. If Disney knows "well, in a few years we get the rights back" it makes sense to wait, especially since stuff like Planet Hulk can be done very well without Ruffalo. There is no hurry.

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#29210: Mar 13th 2015 at 9:13:08 AM

Twins posters.

edited 13th Mar '15 9:47:40 AM by LordofLore

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#29211: Mar 13th 2015 at 10:43:46 AM

Apparently Universal Pictures still owns the right of distribution to Hulk movies, and I've heard that's a contributing factor to why there's not going to be any new Hulk films. The other probably being that Hulk historically works better as part of an ensemble cast, Peter David's stories aside.

Allegedly that's the holdup with Namor as well.

Heatth (X-Troper) Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#29212: Mar 13th 2015 at 10:56:33 AM

[up][up]I don't think I ever noticed Quicksilver's mustache.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#29213: Mar 13th 2015 at 11:20:54 AM

Pietro's stache looks kinda goofy in this one shot. Either they should've dyed it white with the rest of his hair or left it scruffier looking like they did with the Winter Soldier's.

stingerbrg Since: Jun, 2009
#29214: Mar 13th 2015 at 12:27:32 PM

It might just be the angle or lighting for the poster, since it looks lighter and thinner in the trailer and photos. Though why they wouldn't photoshop it up...

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#29215: Mar 13th 2015 at 12:32:45 PM

The problem with Hulk is that he's also incredibly expensive to animate. That's why he doesn't get much screentime in The Avengers.

Anyway, I like to imagine that Trevor Slattery is the REAL real Mandarin. He hid his true identity by being a front for himself all along.

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#29216: Mar 13th 2015 at 12:41:35 PM

The other major problem is that people really like Ruffalo's portrayal of Banner and that an unrestrained Hulk is actually a rather boring character.

Someone once wrote that the Avengers was finally the movie to get Hulk "right" because the audience doesn't want to see Banner whining and crying about how much he hates the Hulk and wants to get rid of it, they want to see the Hulk running around and punching shit. The problem is, while that works in short spurts, chances are that's going to get tedious after a while.

He works so well in Avengers because he only appears twice and for most of the rest of the movie, the slack is picked up by Banner or the other heroes.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#29217: Mar 13th 2015 at 1:09:20 PM

He works because in The Avengers, Bruce isn't exactly whining. He is more cautious and preoccupied with keeping himself under control, as well as understandably worried that Shield will break the promise to let him go. Plus, he is allowed to act as a scientist for a change. Usually he is only allowed to do that in movies when he is searching for a cure for himself, and even then the science aspect is very toned down.

That was one of my main peeves about The Incredible Hulk...supposedly Bruce and Betty are the experts, but no, they have to go to a third person for a cure and Betty doesn't even use all the data she rescued to look for a solution herself and instead waits for Bruce to turn up again.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#29218: Mar 13th 2015 at 1:28:58 PM

Yeah, I agree that too much Hulk would probably be boring once the novelty of him smashing up stuff is gone. I've found Banner to be the much more compelling character to follow in the films, even Norton's.

Heatth (X-Troper) Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#29219: Mar 13th 2015 at 2:54:02 PM

You can have full time Hulk without being repetitive. He can be more nuanced than people give him credit for. Planet Hulk is a prime example. But even a story focusing on Banner can be good, and you don't need him "whining" all the time either.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#29221: Mar 14th 2015 at 2:06:18 PM

I'm confused, who is doing the music for Age of Ultron? Is it Brian Tyler or Danny Elfman? Edit: NVM I'm just dumb and didn't read carefully. All the hubbub I've heard over Elfman made me think he was doing the main score.

edited 14th Mar '15 2:08:18 PM by AlleyOop

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#29222: Mar 14th 2015 at 2:30:57 PM

[up][up]That might explain that Missing Trailer Scene of Groot turning on Peter's radio.

NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#29223: Mar 14th 2015 at 9:47:00 PM

It might be interesting if they ever actually tried translating Hulk's Mr. Fixit persona into a movie.

Yet another sad thing about the situation with FOX is we'll never see Hulk vs. Thing in any movie.

edited 14th Mar '15 9:47:56 PM by NapoleonDeCheese

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
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#29224: Mar 14th 2015 at 9:56:11 PM

Did I imagine a rumor that Grey Hulk would show up, but evil?

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#29225: Mar 15th 2015 at 1:45:02 AM

Only thing I'm aware of is some figure but it might've just been a promotional thing rather than something that would appear in the movie. Adding him in would probably just complicate things too much without a proper Hulk solo film.


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