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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

TenebrousGaze Dark Eye from A Shaded Face Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
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#29001: Mar 10th 2015 at 10:11:41 AM

Because of course planning another film in that series before we've actually got the one which seems to be definitely happening now out is an amazing idea. The fact that many places seem to be referring to it as "male Ghostbusters" also worries me but I'm not sure whether that originated with the people actually making it or not.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#29002: Mar 10th 2015 at 10:24:33 AM

Heh I just caught the Thor and Iron Man Shout Outs in the trailer.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#29003: Mar 10th 2015 at 11:07:24 AM

Yeah, aren't they still working on the Feig adaptation? Seems like another case of Sony planning poorly and biting off more than they can chew.

[up]Yeah, a little on the nose but at least it's not so bad as Gotham's.

edited 10th Mar '15 11:08:06 AM by AlleyOop

Wackd Since: May, 2009
#29004: Mar 10th 2015 at 11:27:28 AM

Sony's still doing the Feig version, the Russo version is them trying to do a Cinematic Universe.

Which they've put Dan fucking Aykroyd in charge of for some reason.

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
Canid117 Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#29005: Mar 10th 2015 at 11:28:14 AM

[up][up]These one's at least make sense because the heroes they are referencing actually exist so its not the universe randomly lining up to make reference to something that wont happen for another 15 years.

edited 10th Mar '15 11:28:26 AM by Canid117

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#29006: Mar 10th 2015 at 11:32:29 AM

Which they've put Dan fucking Aykroyd in charge of for some reason.

...maybe because he created Ghostbusters? Dan Aykroyd and Harold Ramis are the fathers of the franchise, and the latter is deceased.

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spashthebandragon thebandragoness from USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#29007: Mar 10th 2015 at 11:35:59 AM

Saw the Daredevil trailer. Ugh, what heavy-handed shout-outs to War Machine and Beta Ray Bill!

I've got fanfics for Frozen, Spectacular Spider-Man, Crash Bandicoot, and Spyro the Dragon.
Wackd Since: May, 2009
#29008: Mar 10th 2015 at 11:38:35 AM

Aykroyd is a goddamn loon, though. He has proven time and time again that he has no idea what made his own projects enjoyable and clearly has some massive hang-ups about superscience and the occult that he can't exorcise from his work without someone to keep him on a leash.

Yes, Sony has partnered him with Ivan Reitman, but I'll remind you that Ghostbusters II also happened on his watch.

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
MousaThe14 Writer, Artist, Ignored from Northern Virginia Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#29009: Mar 10th 2015 at 11:39:58 AM

@Tobias, the former insane, and the Murray half of the movie's charm.

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vandro Shop Owner from The little shop that wasn't Since: Jul, 2009
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#29010: Mar 10th 2015 at 11:41:32 AM

I like Ghostbusters II

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#29011: Mar 10th 2015 at 11:42:22 AM

[up][up][up][up] grin

[up][up][up] I believe Blues Brothers 2000 was his work, yes? Granted, I haven't seen the original, but I did see the Nostalgia Critic's review of 2000, so...yeah, that was pretty out there.

What kind of hang-ups are we talking about here?

edited 10th Mar '15 11:42:49 AM by KarkatTheDalek

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machop Since: Jan, 2015
#29012: Mar 10th 2015 at 6:58:03 PM

I really want to see a better Dr. Lizard in the Spider-Man re-reboot. I'd prefer him to wear his lab coat and shorts, unlike last time in then reboot. Also, make him less realistic to match the style he had in the comics/cartoons.

And of course, he would be played by either Daniel Rattcliffe or Eric Bana. Just because. Specially with the latter.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#29013: Mar 10th 2015 at 7:02:55 PM

I'm not sure what's "of course" about either of those choices (especially Radcliffe) but it'd probably be smart to avoid reusing a villain that only appeared just recently. Especially when one of the main criticisms of the reboot was that it rehashed the Raimi trilogy in ways.

Agents of SHIELD had some nice Kree and Inhuman related stuff tonight. The Inhumans were created thousands of years ago by radical forces in the Kree military during a costly war with an unnamed species (the Skrulls? Xandar?) They began experimenting on the native populations of various planets to create living weapons but it was thought that they all failed, and the experiment was discontinued. Humans were apparently the only race to survive undergoing such a procedure.

edited 10th Mar '15 7:03:12 PM by comicwriter

Wackd Since: May, 2009
#29014: Mar 10th 2015 at 7:16:37 PM

I believe Blues Brothers 2000 was his work, yes? Granted, I haven't seen the original, but I did see the Nostalgia Critic's review of 2000, so...yeah, that was pretty out there.
Aykroyd also turned in, instead of a screenplay for the first Blues Brothers, a friggin' 300-page tome on the entire fictitious history of the band. His first draft of Ghostbusters involves time travel, space travel, and magic.

What kind of hang-ups are we talking about here?
The heart of it is that he genuinely believes in superintelligent ghosts, alternate dimensions, and alien visitations of Earth, and, as such, is more interested in what I'll generously call "world building" than actually engaging an audience.

He's also a relentless self-promoter who hasn't done anything worth talking about in years and has actively been publicly dragging Bill Murray and Rick Moranis into his self-aggrandizing plans for a Ghostbusters reboot that neither had any interest in. And he continued this behavior well into the announcements for Feig's version. Sony, it seems, has now decided to either reward that behavior or simply give him a cushy useless job to get him to shut up. God I hope it's the latter.

edited 10th Mar '15 7:18:48 PM by Wackd

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
Canid117 Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#29015: Mar 10th 2015 at 8:20:34 PM

After re-watching the old Daredevil movie I find it hilarious that Murdock is trying a man named Quesada for rape.

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#29017: Mar 10th 2015 at 8:44:24 PM
Canid117 Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#29018: Mar 10th 2015 at 8:46:03 PM

I had no idea the Director thought of Joe as... rapey...

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HisInfernalMajesty Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you
#29019: Mar 10th 2015 at 8:47:08 PM

I'd like to see Carnage as the Big Bad of Spiderman's eventual solo movie, mainly because he's my favorite of his rogue's gallery. At the very least Venom - though I guess then we'd have to spend half the movie rehashing Spiderman 3.

On second thought, do something out of left field like Chameleon.

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Canid117 Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#29020: Mar 10th 2015 at 8:53:42 PM

Or it could be Skip.

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#29021: Mar 10th 2015 at 9:01:18 PM

I doubt it has anything to do with the writer thinking of Joe as "rapey". There's a similar Take That! against Bendis so I doubt it was anything personal, just a Mythology Gag.

GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#29022: Mar 10th 2015 at 9:07:20 PM

I think they just put his name in the film as a shout out. One More Day wouldn't even happen till four years after the movie came out.

Ekuran Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#29024: Mar 10th 2015 at 9:13:58 PM

[up][up][up]Bendis and Miller were the names of fighters DD's dad beat. Joe's shoutout raped a woman. Slight difference.

edited 10th Mar '15 9:15:08 PM by Canid117

"War without fire is like sausages without mustard." - Jean Juvénal des Ursins
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#29025: Mar 10th 2015 at 9:39:01 PM

[up][up] Of course, while those are very disturbing (although I can't help but think they have guts to attempt to tackle the such a subject - especially the Power Pack one - although I couldn't tell you whether the end results were satisfactory), there's also the rather harrowing rumor (mentioned in the first link, but it bears repeating here) that in an earlier draft, Skip would have been Uncle Ben.

edited 10th Mar '15 9:49:31 PM by KarkatTheDalek

Oh God! Natural light!

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