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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#28951: Mar 9th 2015 at 2:37:49 AM

Maybe it's to not confuse the ones who skip movies?

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#28952: Mar 9th 2015 at 2:56:35 AM

Why shouldn't she change her style once in a while? And really, everything is better than those curls. They looked so fake.

MousaThe14 Writer, Artist, Ignored from Northern Virginia Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#28953: Mar 9th 2015 at 5:26:53 AM

Hell, I still think the long orange straight hair in the Winter Soldier was a rug.

And to beat a dead horse since I wasn't around for the initial shooting, I liked Harley.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#28954: Mar 9th 2015 at 5:35:46 AM

[up] I guess the straight hair is closer to her look in the comics, but I like her with short hair the best. Especially since it makes so much more sense for a fighter.

edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
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#28955: Mar 9th 2015 at 6:18:27 AM

[up][up]He's every precocious brat stereotype, somehow made endearing instead. I like that kid.

edited 9th Mar '15 6:20:42 AM by edvedd

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DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
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#28956: Mar 9th 2015 at 7:06:12 AM

I really wasn't a fan of her Winter Soldier look either.

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Heatth (X-Troper) Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#28957: Mar 9th 2015 at 7:29:22 AM

Because I don't think they are going to pull a "Wow, your daughter actually survived the attack that is your motivation for pretty much everything, Drax/was saved by the father of Thanos". Much more likely that she is just a monk in service to the Universal Church of Truth or just introduced as Phyla-Vell's girlfriend who ends up joining the Guardians with her after they save the universe together.

I actually figured she would be another daughter. The conflict between the two would be that Drax obsessive revenge drew him away from the family he had left. Although, I don't see why they couldn't pull the "she survived and is now with your enemy" card.

lackofsense Since: Jan, 2013
#28958: Mar 9th 2015 at 7:42:28 AM

I got the sense in the comics that Moondragon never really cared for her father. She was the reason his longest incarnation was a nearly brain dead moron.

Heatth (X-Troper) Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#28959: Mar 9th 2015 at 7:57:28 AM

[up]I am not too familiar with either of them, but Moondragon lack of care would be conflict enough. Even if she doesn't, he probably does.

edited 9th Mar '15 7:57:49 AM by Heatth

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#28960: Mar 9th 2015 at 8:08:17 AM

If I were a writer and had to pick a character for the team, I would go for Phyla-Vell, simply because her abilities as the most interesting of the bunch. Fighting skills are too basic, and telepathy is an ability with causes a lot of writing problems because it is hard to set distinctive boundaries for it. But the ability to absorb energy and throw it at the enemies? That's something none of the current Guardians can do and would look great on screen.

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#28961: Mar 9th 2015 at 8:19:50 AM

[up]A power she shares with Carol Danvers who got it probably because Phyla's father was present at the moment when Carol became half Kree and got her powers. Phyla likes making weapons and stabbing things with them.

[up][up][up]Heather cares for her father(hell, she's the one who got his brain fixed after he was revived with a faulty brain due to Krono's not caring about fixing the damage Moondragon caused before Drax's death)but whenever she tries to reconnect with him he pushes her away. I think there is a quote from Infinity Watch somewhere on the wikia which pretty much says that despite everything that has happened to her father she still loves him.

Edit: I think I found it:

"Once he was Arthur Douglas, a so-so jazz musician, as I recall. He ended up dying next to a burning car in the desert between Vegas and Reno. He was my father. I was with him that time, also. But Death wasn't the end for Dad, just the terrible beginning. There was this cosmic entity named Kronos who needed a champion to keep Thanos in line. He grabbed my dad's soul and used it to animate his hero. So Pop became the lumbering behemoth known as Drax the Destroyer. I guess even back then part of me still loved the guy. Didn't stop me, though, from killing him a second time."

edited 9th Mar '15 8:23:21 AM by LordofLore

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#28962: Mar 9th 2015 at 8:23:13 AM

I don't really know about the characters, but it would be great to introduce both Phyla and Moondragon- I can imagine having Drax reunited with his daughter and her talking about a (possibly romantic) friend who saved her, and Drax would not be pleased when he met Phyla- not because of the lesbian relationship, but because Phylla is a Kree.

edited 9th Mar '15 8:23:40 AM by Hodor2

Canid117 Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#28963: Mar 9th 2015 at 8:30:55 AM

Do white people Kree even exist in the MCU?

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Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#28964: Mar 9th 2015 at 8:32:39 AM

I don't think so. I'd imagine if Phyla did show up, she'd probably be blue.

Canid117 Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#28965: Mar 9th 2015 at 8:35:11 AM

I like all blue Kree better anyway.

Except wait.... Korath is Kree and he looks like a black guy.

I have no idea. Kree be whatever they want.

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LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#28966: Mar 9th 2015 at 8:36:37 AM

Phyla was half Kree/Eternal in the comics so I guess she would be half Kree/Xandarian in the MCU if the White Kree working class doesn't exist(how many Kree did we actually see in the movie?).

edited 9th Mar '15 8:37:07 AM by LordofLore

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#28967: Mar 9th 2015 at 9:04:59 AM

[up][up] I don't think Korath's supposed to be Kree here. I've heard people describe him as Sakaaran but I don't think that's quite right either. But even without taking skin color into account he's got these metal implants and other aspects of his design that make him look distinctly un-Kreelike.

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#28969: Mar 9th 2015 at 10:50:06 AM

Makes sense. Age of Ultron will already be out and there probably won't be enough footage of Civil War to really show anything other than a cheap teaser (like the initial Avengers 2 teaser that was just a CGI Ultron face with a bunch of recycled dialogue from the first movie).

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#28970: Mar 9th 2015 at 11:46:52 AM

What, there isn't going to be any news about Dr. Strange or Spidey by that time to look forward to?

Ekuran Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#28971: Mar 9th 2015 at 11:54:07 AM

Hm.

Anyone else feel like the Winter Soldier was a sympathetic, human Jaws?

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#28972: Mar 9th 2015 at 12:00:01 PM

Uh?

Also, I'm super sympathetic to Jaws. The movie has made people kill sharks quite a bit.

edited 9th Mar '15 12:00:57 PM by Bocaj

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Ekuran Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#28973: Mar 9th 2015 at 12:37:02 PM

Guy has his name in the title, is the physical antagonist, is a hunter, has scary theme music whenever they show up, isn't really self-aware of their actions (he's brainwashed, and Jaws is just an animal), and isn't in the movie all that much despite the title billing.

It was mostly this specific moment where he just pops up with the scary scream theme, and the scene in general that gave me a Jaws vibe.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#28974: Mar 9th 2015 at 1:30:59 PM

I have been thinking about the "will anyone die" question again...and I have come to believe that while it might happen, I think the actually big upset will be that the Avengers will fail on some level. Oh, they will defeat Ultron, but not before innocent people died, making this the big event which leads to civil war.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#28975: Mar 9th 2015 at 1:44:39 PM

What, there isn't going to be any news about Dr. Strange or Spidey by that time to look forward to?

Does anyone know when either movie begins shooting?

edited 9th Mar '15 1:44:51 PM by comicwriter


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