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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

C105 Too old for this from France Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#28226: Mar 3rd 2015 at 5:41:49 AM

Strangely enough, the Banner/Natasha ship does not surprise nor disappoint me (and I usually have some Anti Shipping Goggles firmly wielded on my head). I mean, I would be perfectly ok if they did not force another unnecessary romance plot in the movie (especially since it would be a Pair the Spares), but that one would not bother me. Banner/Hulk was the character she had the most interaction with in Avengers apart from Clint, after all (ok in the case of Hulk, it was more a case of running away like heck to avoid being crushed).

edited 3rd Mar '15 5:42:05 AM by C105

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#28227: Mar 3rd 2015 at 6:52:19 AM

I just worry that there won't be time to develop a plot-irrelevant romance with freaking nine Avengers who all need screentime in the middle of a story about robots taking over the world. I'm seriously scared this movie is gonna be X-Men The Last Stand all over again. Underdeveloped romance is a popular substitute for meaningful character interaction when the story has to be super rushed, after all (*cough* Rogue and Iceman *cough*).

And if they had to throw in a romance, why not do Scarlet Witch / Vision instead? Or will they try and cram that into the narrative, too?

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#28228: Mar 3rd 2015 at 6:59:35 AM

I give not one solid shit about Banner/Natasha.

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#28229: Mar 3rd 2015 at 7:08:29 AM

I'm probably not going to date someone who forced me to pull a gun on them as a test for how scared for my life I was. But, she and I are different people.

Didn't Bruce try to have sex with Betty, but it'd risk raising his heart rate to that (literally unhealthy and unbelievable and only there for the sake of even numbers) Hulk trigger level of 200?

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#28230: Mar 3rd 2015 at 7:13:23 AM

A relationship doesn't need to be sexual to be mutually meaningful.

Widow/Falcon does make more sense though; they both have military backgrounds they're in two minds about, they're both emotionally mature.

See, this is a problem when you have a massive gender imbalance; your minority-gendered characters get shipped with EVERYONE.

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#28231: Mar 3rd 2015 at 7:15:18 AM

Actually, what I'm really worried about isn't that the Avengers franchise will turn into X-Men 3. I'm worried it'll turn into this.

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#28232: Mar 3rd 2015 at 7:15:59 AM

I think they're pretty much ignoring the heart rate thing anyway.

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#28233: Mar 3rd 2015 at 7:16:34 AM

On the other hand, we don't know the specifics of their relationship yet. So we can still hope it is neither a Romantic Plot Tumor nor a Instant Love, just add water. And maybe it is simply some intimate but non romantic moment like Natasha and Clint shared in Avengers.

Though the fact that one trailer showed Natasha and Hulk doing the palm against palm thing that Thor did with Jane Foster does not help my case.

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#28234: Mar 3rd 2015 at 7:18:03 AM

I've heard the script described on some film sites as one of the best they've worked with so far, so we'll see. I think it'll be a baseless worry.

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#28235: Mar 3rd 2015 at 7:24:41 AM

[up][up]Well, Kirk did it with Spock... (going for a bromance joke, not a Too Soon joke, sorry)

Widow definitely seemed flirty in her response to Sam, but then again she seemed flirty in general to me. Maybe because I wished she was flirting with me.

edited 3rd Mar '15 7:26:05 AM by wanderlustwarrior

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#28237: Mar 3rd 2015 at 8:26:13 AM

Interview with Renner and Evans. Among other things, they mention:

  • Steve's friendship with Natasha from Winter Soldier is briefly touched upon, but "she has her own arc."

  • Widow's personal history and backstory has a big part in the movie.

  • Her history with Hawkeye will also be more detailed.

  • They're trying to play up Captain America's strength more, this time around.

  • They will reveal where Hawkeye's been during the events of the last few movies, and Renner says the reveal is "awesome".

  • Hawkeye apparently never really cared for SHIELD, and only stayed because he admired Fury and had a fierce loyalty to him.

  • Hawkeye has a lot of scenes with Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch, and apparently he "polices" them to see if they're trustworthy or not.

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#28238: Mar 3rd 2015 at 8:49:39 AM

[up]I was hoping that Hawkeye spent the last movies running away from stuff.

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#28240: Mar 3rd 2015 at 9:36:04 AM

It's less annoying because he doesn't have a JARVIS HUD or eye protection in his helmet, but he should still be wearing the thing, dammit...

As for his strength, we did see him rip a log in half with his bare hands, and that was fantastic. Cap 2 showed off his speed, and Avengers kinda sorta introduced his level head to the modern era, but not really.

I'll be happy to hear some of that Hawkeye backstory. Also, glad to see that Kooky Quartet and potentially some Ronin action from Clint, please.

Hawkeye never cared for SHIELD? Huh. That's both in character from the movies and comic standpoint, and kinda disappointing.

edited 3rd Mar '15 9:38:44 AM by wanderlustwarrior

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#28241: Mar 3rd 2015 at 9:57:22 AM

It's less annoying because he doesn't have a JARVIS HUD or eye protection in his helmet, but he should still be wearing the thing, dammit...

Cap has gone helmetless on the posters for pretty much every film save for Winter Soldier so it's not a big deal.

He also spends large portions of his movies without the mask or helmet. And in the grand scheme of things it's not like that flimsy thing will offer him much protection in combat.

edited 3rd Mar '15 9:57:47 AM by comicwriter

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#28242: Mar 3rd 2015 at 10:02:13 AM

I know. I've noticed those things, which is why it bugs me less, but still bugs me a little. It's not just because I'd rather Cap get more exposure than Stark. Cap being helmetless by choice is slightly bothersome, but Iron Man doing so is fucking daft.

It's a shame Hawkeye didn't keep the goggles as part of his costume. I guess he doesn't need them, but still. Maybe they could've done something special.

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#28243: Mar 3rd 2015 at 10:07:39 AM

I don't know how a helmet causes Cap to get more exposure than Iron Man when Iron Man is already the more popular of the two.

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#28244: Mar 3rd 2015 at 10:15:15 AM

It's a movie poster.

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#28245: Mar 3rd 2015 at 10:18:43 AM

I misread that thing from a page ago as Captain Falcon/Natasha.

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#28246: Mar 3rd 2015 at 10:19:28 AM

[up][up]Really? I thought this was a matter of life and death and the future of the MCU as we know it.

Don't you understand, Mukora, it's IMPARATIVE that Steve has his cowl on!

edited 3rd Mar '15 10:19:50 AM by MousaThe14

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#28247: Mar 3rd 2015 at 10:28:25 AM

[up]BUT WHERE'S THOR'S HELMET? THE MOVIE WILL BE BAD UNLESS THOR WEARS HIS HELMET!

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Whowho Since: May, 2012
#28248: Mar 3rd 2015 at 10:28:43 AM

#StillWaitingForThorsHelmet [nja]

edited 3rd Mar '15 10:32:17 AM by Whowho

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#28249: Mar 3rd 2015 at 10:30:16 AM

It's a movie poster.

This. They don't have helmets on because the poster has to show the actors' pretty faces unobstructed.

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#28250: Mar 3rd 2015 at 10:38:59 AM

Thor's helmet I can totally understand, though.

That thing has been fucking squandered.

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