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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#28026: Mar 1st 2015 at 1:40:30 PM

[up]They made a conscious effort to avoid that with the recent Inhumans in the new books. One of the main ones is a teenage girl from China and another is a Latino boy. And a lot of the other ones in the tie-ins are diverse, like a Japanese lesbian in one of the Defenders tie-ins and then Kamala Khan herself.

Also why all the polls and articles narrow it to Peter and Miles: likely because of the huge discussion that came around last time involving Donald Glover and how that in particular was very firmly entrenched in a "Is the world ready for a Spider-Man who is not a white guy?" rhetoric and discussions about racism in fandom. A female Spider-lead would probably bring up similar discussions but most people are focusing on the race one because that was the big discussion last time.

Something like Spider-Girl could be an out of left field choice but if Sony and Marvel really were considering a "non-traditional" Spider-Man the media probably feels that's a safer bet.

edited 1st Mar '15 1:43:02 PM by comicwriter

BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#28027: Mar 1st 2015 at 1:40:57 PM

Makes sense.

Seriously though, "Spider-Gwen" would go in the books for worst identity-concealing name ever.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#28028: Mar 1st 2015 at 1:41:55 PM

Next to nobody knows the core Inhuman team, so they have a lot of freedom there, and they apparently intend to go for an Asian origin...I wouldn't be surprised if they do a colorblind casting for the roles. Well, except for Medusa, I guess she needs to be a convincing redhead.

edited 1st Mar '15 1:42:14 PM by Swanpride

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#28029: Mar 1st 2015 at 1:43:19 PM

[up][up]She does whatever a Gwen does.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#28030: Mar 1st 2015 at 1:43:43 PM

One thing for certain Glover is not an actor I would like in the role of Spider-man. Wrong hands. (and yes, I am obsessed about this point, but after Andrew Garfield I won't settle for less than hands which look perfectly "spiderly").

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#28031: Mar 1st 2015 at 1:46:59 PM

Seriously though, "Spider-Gwen" would go in the books for worst identity-concealing name ever.

I believe she even jokes about that when she first appeared in Spider-Verse. She's introduced as "Spider-Gwen" and responds: "Whoa, hey! I know's it's an alternate universe, but I've still got to keep a secret identity."

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#28032: Mar 1st 2015 at 1:51:32 PM

Our wiki lists the name as Ascended Fanon but I have no idea if that's true.

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#28033: Mar 1st 2015 at 1:55:57 PM

The only "set in stone" Inhumans for the movie/s are probably Black Bolt, Medusa, Maximus the Mad, Crystal and Lockjaw. The rest are probably going to be either changed from how they looked or acted in the classic comics or the "new generation" of Inhumans.

edited 1st Mar '15 2:03:22 PM by LordofLore

Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#28034: Mar 1st 2015 at 1:57:52 PM

That's a pretty large cast already. Would there even be any more?

Maybe Quake if they get over not letting TV show stuff into the movies.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#28035: Mar 1st 2015 at 1:58:24 PM

[up][up]I suspect they will have the younger generation just because Agents of SHIELD is running with the idea established in the 2014 series that there are seemingly "normal" people who actually have ancient Inhuman lineage.

My personal theory is they will use one or more of the newer Inhuman kids as an Audience Surrogate for when they introduce the royal family and their society. Sorta like how X-Men starts with Wolverine and Rogue and uses them to introduce the whole wider world of the X-Men and Brotherhood.

edited 1st Mar '15 1:59:58 PM by comicwriter

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#28036: Mar 1st 2015 at 2:03:01 PM

With Mayday also changing to Spider-Woman, there are a lot of Spider-Women running around currently.

Also, I wonder if they use Maximus, whether they'll play him similarly to Loki.

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CorrTerek The Permanently Confused from The Bland Line Since: Jul, 2009
The Permanently Confused
#28037: Mar 1st 2015 at 2:04:26 PM

Is Maximus generally more well-intentioned than Loki? I haven't seen much of him outside an appearance in a video game, and there he seemed to be well-enough-intentioned, but spectacularly shortsighted and maybe lacking in empathy.

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#28038: Mar 1st 2015 at 2:11:34 PM

If they do him anything like he was in DnA!Guardians of the Galaxy or FF(everyone has to see this moment once) I'm going to be a happy comic reader because those are the best versions of him that I've read thus far.

edited 1st Mar '15 2:20:34 PM by LordofLore

Wackd Since: May, 2009
#28039: Mar 1st 2015 at 2:19:04 PM

What's weird about the GOTG movie is that Rocket claims that Groot is, in fact, just saying "I am Groot" over and over again, due to having a shit vocabulary. He's not speaking another language or anything. And yet Rocket understands what Groot intends to say with ludicris precision.

How the fuck does that work?

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#28040: Mar 1st 2015 at 2:20:19 PM

Tone and body language. Being really close. Having to decipher for himself for years. Making shit up.

Combination of all of them, probably.

Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#28041: Mar 1st 2015 at 2:20:54 PM

The same way people understand what R 2 D 2 says.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
TenebrousGaze Dark Eye from A Shaded Face Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
Dark Eye
#28042: Mar 1st 2015 at 2:22:20 PM

Perhaps everyone else has translators (I only remember it explicitly stating that Quill had one but I presume they all do) which are more dictionary-like and only translate languages whoever made them could speak but Rocket has a better one which is almost babelfish (ie: basically psychic) in working.

CorrTerek The Permanently Confused from The Bland Line Since: Jul, 2009
The Permanently Confused
#28043: Mar 1st 2015 at 2:23:41 PM

If they do him anything like he was in Dn A!Guardians of the Galaxy◊ or F◊F◊(everyone has to see this moment once◊) I'm going to be a happy comic reader because those are the best versions of him that I've read thus far.

Thanks for showing me those, because now I know that Maximus (the Mad) is awesome.

Admittedly less awesome when he's building Terrigen Bombs for Thanos (as he was when I was introduced to him) but still pretty awesome.

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#28044: Mar 1st 2015 at 3:41:56 PM

I wonder if Chloe Bennet will in any shape or form have a role in the Inhumans movie.

edited 1st Mar '15 3:42:18 PM by higherbrainpattern

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#28045: Mar 1st 2015 at 3:46:31 PM

[up]That is the question. They were adamant about keeping Coulson out of the movies but I don't think her situation would be quite as prone to Continuity Lock-Out if you just give a rundown of who she is.

The Inhumans are weird because I think this is the first time the MCU has introduced a property in the TV show with plans to lead into a movie rather than vice versa.

BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#28046: Mar 1st 2015 at 4:55:16 PM

I wouldn't really consider it a "lead-in". It's introducing the concept to a small portion of the audience, five years before it's relevant to the movies.

Chloe Bennet's appearance would be dependant on what their plans are for Skye on the show, and if Agents of SHIELD even lasts long enough that she's still relevant by the time we get there.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#28047: Mar 1st 2015 at 5:19:10 PM

Depending on what they do with Skye, her being the Inhumans movie might even be likely. It helps that unlike Coulson, or even arguably the big heroes they're introducing in the Netflix shows, Skye doesn't really have a backstory or mythos that would be difficult to coincide with showing up in a movie without any previous appearances. They could give her a token introduction the same as they're likely going to give most of the other Inhumans they would be introducing in that movie.

edvedd Darling. from At the boutique, dear. Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: We finish each other's sandwiches
Darling.
#28048: Mar 1st 2015 at 5:27:11 PM

Being Chinese, I just want more Asian heroes. Big Hero 6 is fine, but do more you know?

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#28049: Mar 1st 2015 at 5:29:44 PM

I feel the same way. It's pretty unfortunate that the only ones I can think of are X-men or racist stereotypes. The only somewhat prominent character they have is Amadeus Cho.

GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#28050: Mar 1st 2015 at 5:36:02 PM

Doesn't he play into stereotypes as well?


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