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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#27701: Feb 25th 2015 at 6:26:35 AM

Or we just wait and see what happens instead of jumping to conclusions. The main Sony office is way more in control of the rights now than they were a year ago. If they want to sell the rights later, they will do it.

(Also next time link an actual article instead of a youtuber)

@The list I was going to make: Working on it. Only slept 4 hours last night and I'm feeling awful but I managed to work a couple of hours before giving up and going home.

@The poster: Way too crowded, the photoshop is strong with this one, american top billing is a strange thing, would have liked a bit more color in the background and I still miss Thor's kickass helmet from his first movie.

edited 25th Feb '15 6:32:35 AM by LordofLore

TrashJack Confirmed Doomer from beyond the Despair Event Horizon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Confirmed Doomer
#27702: Feb 25th 2015 at 6:28:26 AM

[up] As you wish. The Los Angeles Times' article on his appointment.

"Cynic, n. — A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be." - The Devil's Dictionary
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#27703: Feb 25th 2015 at 8:10:19 AM

As long as he isn't directly responsible for the project....Who knows, he might have learned something. People change. Though Marvel might not too happy about this appointment.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#27705: Feb 25th 2015 at 9:32:28 AM

New poster. RDJ also says there's something big coming in 8 days.

edited 25th Feb '15 9:33:11 AM by comicwriter

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#27706: Feb 25th 2015 at 9:32:34 AM

Wondy's got a point. wink

Rob Man gives us a new Ron Man poster.

[nja]

edited 25th Feb '15 9:33:08 AM by Tuckerscreator

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#27707: Feb 25th 2015 at 9:51:37 AM

Poor Natasha

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
deathpigeon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
#27708: Feb 25th 2015 at 9:53:21 AM

Ok, let's be honest, when Batman v Superman fails in the box office, Warner Brothers will hold off on Wonder Woman and go back to more Batman because that's what's safe.

TrashJack Confirmed Doomer from beyond the Despair Event Horizon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Confirmed Doomer
#27709: Feb 25th 2015 at 9:54:54 AM

[up] What happens if the "more Batman" films Bat-Bomb? The End of the World as We Know It?

edited 25th Feb '15 9:59:06 AM by TrashJack

"Cynic, n. — A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be." - The Devil's Dictionary
Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#27710: Feb 25th 2015 at 9:55:25 AM

I don't think it will fail because come on, Batman versus Superman, but I would not doubt it "falls short of the expectations" either critically or comercially and Warner just goes in damage control mode and shelves everything.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#27711: Feb 25th 2015 at 9:55:31 AM

If it fails. And not just because critics say it is bad. Legitimately, loses money.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#27712: Feb 25th 2015 at 10:01:27 AM

Batman vs. Superman is not gonna fail. Batman alone is a license to print money and most of the criticisms of the film so far tend to be the sort of stuff the mainstream audience doesn't really pay attention to anyway.

Even Man of Steel, crappy as it was, made 668 million at the box office.

spashthebandragon thebandragoness from USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
thebandragoness
#27713: Feb 25th 2015 at 10:09:16 AM

I think people are way too mean to movies like Amazing Spider-Man 2 and Man of Steel. Yes, they have flaws, but are we really saying that anything short of a perfect movie must lead to "CANCEL EVERYTHING?" What if Avengers 2 or 3 turn out to have problems? Should we just shelve the entire MCU?

edited 25th Feb '15 1:21:43 PM by spashthebandragon

I've got fanfics for Frozen, Spectacular Spider-Man, Crash Bandicoot, and Spyro the Dragon.
Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#27714: Feb 25th 2015 at 10:10:17 AM

We are not saying that's how it's supposed to be, we are saying that is, most likely, how it will be.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#27715: Feb 25th 2015 at 10:10:20 AM

If that was the case the MCU would have died back when IM 2 was such a failure compared to IM 1.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#27716: Feb 25th 2015 at 10:13:42 AM

I don't see how it's "most likely" at all. Bad movies make money all the time. Batman is a huge draw (even Batman & Robin, the movie that fucking killed the franchise, only made around 230 million. And that's before the International Box Office was a huge thing Hollywood marketed to). And again, if a piece of shit like Man of Steel pulls in over 600 million it's unlikely a team-up with Batman isn't going to do at least around that.

edited 25th Feb '15 10:14:21 AM by comicwriter

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#27717: Feb 25th 2015 at 10:15:02 AM

DC is not Marvel though. Marvel was willing to tolerate a few mistakes with Incredible Hulk and Iron Man 2 but DC seems to take the view that anything less than success means they should stop everything and start over. We already saw them do this with Green Lantern.

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#27718: Feb 25th 2015 at 10:15:39 AM

Well not that it will most likely fail, but that if it fails it will most likely result in the downfall of planned franchise before it begins.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#27719: Feb 25th 2015 at 10:16:37 AM

[up][up]Green Lantern wasn't less than a success it was an outright Box-Office Bomb. It made 219 million on a 200 million budget. You have to at least double your budget to make a profit, which means they lost tens of millions on that.

edited 25th Feb '15 10:17:01 AM by comicwriter

Wackd Since: May, 2009
#27720: Feb 25th 2015 at 10:16:48 AM

Green Lantern wasn't stopped because it was critically hated, it was stopped because it only made back 20 million more than its 200 million budget. [nja]

edited 25th Feb '15 10:17:26 AM by Wackd

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#27721: Feb 25th 2015 at 10:17:07 AM

That was early in the wave though.

Wackd Since: May, 2009
#27722: Feb 25th 2015 at 10:19:32 AM

[up]Look, if the first movie in your franchise barely makes back what it cost to produce, you'd have to be a fiscal idiot to say "well, it's early, the next one will do better."

Green Lantern made 110% of its budget back. By comparison, The Incredible Hulk made 175% of its budget back and Iron Man 2 made 312% of its budget back.

edited 25th Feb '15 10:23:02 AM by Wackd

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#27723: Feb 25th 2015 at 10:22:20 AM

My comment was ninja'd by better info and my iPad woulnt allow me to edit the comment.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#27724: Feb 25th 2015 at 12:25:30 PM

Well, Hulk obviously underperformed in the eyes of Marvel, that's why the Iron Man, Captain America and Thor franchises are or will be trilogies and The Incredible Hulk wont. I think the difference is that Marvel has more confidence in their B-Listers. If one doesn't work out, they shift to another one. DC on the other hand tries to prop up all B-Listers by putting them in a movie with Batman and Superman.

spashthebandragon thebandragoness from USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
thebandragoness
#27725: Feb 25th 2015 at 1:11:33 PM

You could almost say Marvel's strategy is... if you cut off one head, two more will take its place.

I've got fanfics for Frozen, Spectacular Spider-Man, Crash Bandicoot, and Spyro the Dragon.

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