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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#27301: Feb 16th 2015 at 8:49:41 PM

but giant monster

and tiny wing man

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Canid117 Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#27303: Feb 16th 2015 at 8:56:59 PM

Godzilla looks like a green gopher...

"War without fire is like sausages without mustard." - Jean Juvénal des Ursins
NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#27304: Feb 16th 2015 at 8:59:18 PM

I don't give a crap if Warren has all the sharp metal wings in the world, him killing Godzilla is just plain wrong.

TenebrousGaze Dark Eye from A Shaded Face Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Giving love a bad name
Dark Eye
#27305: Feb 17th 2015 at 3:46:04 AM

Nah, it was clearly a doombot.

TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#27306: Feb 17th 2015 at 8:46:18 AM

Makes sense to me. If they can't or don't want to get the license back, killing off Godzilla is a good way of making people stop asking for him to return.

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NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#27307: Feb 17th 2015 at 12:24:22 PM

Well, then at least pick a more believable character to pull the killing off than freaking Angel. Make it Thor or Hulk, I don't know.

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#27309: Feb 17th 2015 at 2:49:24 PM

[up]So it looks like Pym is the black-helmeted Ant-Man from the test footage. [1]

Ekuran Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#27311: Feb 17th 2015 at 4:41:56 PM

Nooooo. I want Pym's Ant-Man to be red and blue spandex and a dumb, bulbous ant-helmet. Stop pretending costumes can't be both silly and cool!

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#27312: Feb 18th 2015 at 9:07:31 AM

The ratings of Agent Carter make me weep. I really don't get it. The show is awesome, and it just keeps getting better and better.

spashthebandragon thebandragoness from USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#27313: Feb 18th 2015 at 9:11:03 AM

[up]Aww, now you're making me feel guilty for not watching it. Agent Carter is one of those shows that I'm vaguely aware is good, but the premise doesn't sound exciting enough to get me to jump out of my seat and run off to watch it right this second.

I've got fanfics for Frozen, Spectacular Spider-Man, Crash Bandicoot, and Spyro the Dragon.
TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#27314: Feb 18th 2015 at 9:11:31 AM

Unless you have a ratings box hooked up to your cable set, it wouldn't matter anyway.

Agent Carter is fantastic, but I guess it just doesn't appeal to that small sample size that are the only TV viewership that matter.

edited 18th Feb '15 9:12:00 AM by TobiasDrake

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#27315: Feb 18th 2015 at 9:17:59 AM

[up][up]Give it a try. You might be surprised. (Ironically this might be the one Marvel entry which buckles the "nobody ever dies" trend...I mean, the show has only eight episodes, seven which aired so far, and there is an average of one death per episode, more than half of them actually being the good guys...and that's when I only count the characters we actually know by name).

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#27316: Feb 18th 2015 at 9:24:16 AM

[up][up] Damn you Peoria! Damn youuuuuu!

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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#27317: Feb 18th 2015 at 9:24:38 AM

[up][up][up]Hey, I used to be one of those people!

[up]Peoria? Do you mean Nielsen?

I'm actually starting to think that Agents of Shield season 1 and Supernatural season whatever the last one was burned me out on live action tv.

edited 18th Feb '15 9:25:06 AM by wanderlustwarrior

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#27318: Feb 18th 2015 at 9:25:15 AM

Are European ratings counted or is it just the US?

stingerbrg Since: Jun, 2009
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Role Model
#27321: Feb 18th 2015 at 9:30:59 AM

DVR and other regions are counted separately, but they don't matter as much.

GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#27322: Feb 18th 2015 at 10:01:46 AM

Haven't watched it because it conflicts with The Flash, and I don't really like DV Ring stuff most of the time, but I think part of it being that she's only popular within a minority of the fanbase. Add in a combination of her adventures happening between Captain America and the modern day MCU plus us seeing her alive in Winter Soldier and the fate of other characters important to the show, fills it with false drama of her life being in danger. Also, there being the whole "HYDRA has been within SHIELD since day 1 the whole time", anything accomplished for the Greater Good would mean nothing.

Addition: Could just be me putting my disinterest in using established characters in action that takes place between established points in a timeline as the focal character into it.

edited 18th Feb '15 10:02:44 AM by GethKnight

Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
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#27323: Feb 18th 2015 at 10:04:25 AM

It's a good thing most of the drama doesn't come from Peggy's life being in danger, and SHIELD doesn't exist yet, then.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#27324: Feb 18th 2015 at 10:13:07 AM

I meant to watch it, but I could never muster the desire to see any Agent Carter.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#27325: Feb 18th 2015 at 10:33:28 AM

Someone summed up the show's hard time very succinctly. It's a period show and a sci-fi show, and both of those elements tend to be hard sells to network audiences.

Also for all it's many, many, MANY faults, SHIELD at least had the benefit of Agent Coulson being in every damn movie and having a significant role in the Avengers, Marvel's most popular film. By the time his Spin-Off was announced people knew who he was, whereas Peggy had a major role in one film and then a brief cameo in another.


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