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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
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#27151: Feb 15th 2015 at 8:09:51 PM

I really want to say Idris Elba if only because he kinda looked like JJJ in Pacific Rim.

But he's already Heimdall, and he's British.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#27153: Feb 15th 2015 at 8:12:09 PM

And I kinda groan whenever people cast Idris Elba for a thing.

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NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#27155: Feb 15th 2015 at 8:13:51 PM

Really, I'm just astonished by how much Idris Elba's looks like J. Jonah Jameson in Pacific Rim to me. I wasn't actually "casting" him.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#27156: Feb 15th 2015 at 8:15:00 PM

Keith David's voice is far too cool to waste on a supporting character.

I'm locking it in. If they go for a black JJJ, I want Harold Perrineau.

TrashJack Confirmed Doomer from beyond the Despair Event Horizon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
Confirmed Doomer
#27157: Feb 15th 2015 at 8:16:26 PM

[up] Bring back Keith David as Tombstone!

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#27158: Feb 15th 2015 at 8:20:32 PM

A while back I suggested Stan Lee himself should play Jameson. He based the character on himself, and it might be an amusing twist for Jameson to now be a grumpy old editor well past retirement age who keeps an iron grip on his newspaper.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#27159: Feb 15th 2015 at 8:23:38 PM

Now I really want Keith David to be in the MCU but I can't think of who I'd want him to be. Maybe Gargoyle just because it would be a funny reference.

BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#27160: Feb 15th 2015 at 8:24:52 PM

Dormammu?

I mean yeah, you wouldn't get to see him, but let's be honest here, the draw is that voice.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#27161: Feb 15th 2015 at 8:27:14 PM

Yeah, put down another vote for    THE DREAD DORMAMMU   

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#27162: Feb 15th 2015 at 8:31:09 PM

I had someone in mind for Dormammu but I can't think of who. I could definitely imagine him playing that part though.

edit: I remember who I wanted. It was Benedict Cumberbatch funnily enough.tongue

edited 15th Feb '15 8:35:24 PM by Kostya

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#27164: Feb 15th 2015 at 8:53:06 PM

Keith David as Dormammu, Surtur, or the Midgard Serpent.

In live action, maybe a younger character imagined as a bit older (like a reverse Justin Hammer). Moses Magnum perhaps, or one of Dr. Strange's enemies.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#27166: Feb 15th 2015 at 9:15:07 PM

Yep. In fact, he's surprisingly chatty.

I really love it when typically monstrous beings are not only able to talk, but intelligent and eloquent. It's something I like about Tolkein, but which only occasionally got used in the LOTR movies.

edited 15th Feb '15 9:15:49 PM by KnownUnknown

Ekuran Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#27167: Feb 15th 2015 at 9:47:30 PM

Ron Perlman should play/voice Dormammu. Or anyone, really.

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#27169: Feb 15th 2015 at 10:20:41 PM

Jormungandr is really fun to say out loud.

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
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#27170: Feb 15th 2015 at 10:32:40 PM

I miss Tony Jay. :(

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edited 15th Feb '15 10:33:24 PM by KarkatTheDalek

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#27172: Feb 16th 2015 at 12:12:21 AM

I agree with the people who say that they didn't get the complain about the skateboard and the supposed lack of nerdiness. I always thought that the skateboard was a great addition, because it made so much sense for Peter Parker. Let's face it, most people wouldn't feel comfortable swinging through the town like Spider-man does, superpowers or not. But a skateboarder? Totally see it. I also think that his brand of being an outsider felt way more realistic than the Maguire one, which was really the the hollywood version of a nerd.

edited 16th Feb '15 12:12:35 AM by Swanpride

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#27173: Feb 16th 2015 at 4:55:21 AM

I have been thinking about what I want from a Spider-man movie.

1. An actor with the right build

After Andrew Garfield I won't settly for a Spiderman which doesn't have long fingers and a lithe build.

2. A villain who is a villain by choice

Not another "guy goes crazy" story, I want a villain who choose to be one. Something more along of the line of Kingpin, Kraven the Hunter or Chameleon.

3. No romance

I loved the romance in TAS, but it would be nice to concentrate on Aunt May and Peter's friend for a first outing. There is time for romance later when he actually enters college.

edited 16th Feb '15 4:55:38 AM by Swanpride

Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#27174: Feb 16th 2015 at 5:41:45 AM

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Yeah, of all the criticisms of the ASM movies, I never got the people who complained about the fact that Peter skateboards and doesn't wear sweater vests. They claimed it missed the point that he's supposed to be a nerd and outcast but trust me, the whole T-shirts and skateboard look was the look a lot of the stoners and outcasts at my school used to wears. There's also the fact that nerd culture is completely different than it was in the 1960's.

That was something I never got either. I've been out of High School for about 7 years now, but I remember the people who got bullied dressed and acted more like Garfield than Mc Guire.

I think a lot of it comes down to Opinion Myopia though. Comic fans can be critical when it comes to the movies because they feel it should be written to cater to them. It leads to some really silly outrage stuff like people not wanting Ben Affleck as Batman, because he was already Daredevil.

edited 16th Feb '15 5:48:07 AM by Lionheart0

CorrTerek The Permanently Confused from The Bland Line Since: Jul, 2009
The Permanently Confused
#27175: Feb 16th 2015 at 6:03:40 AM

See, my experience was the exact opposite. The bullied kids all looked and behaved like Mc Guire, the popular kids were all Flash, and the suck ups were pretty much all Garfield.

So you can imagine how ASM generally went over for me.


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