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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#27126: Feb 15th 2015 at 5:43:44 PM

[up][up][up][up] I...don't know if that's a good idea. Seems to throw a lot at the audience, not to mention how, if we're setting it in the MCU, it's kind of hard to believe that all of these people were active for what, years? And we've never heard about them before?

Anyway, I know this is from a couple pages ago, but:

Other than the already mentioned Jean Loring, Dr. Destiny and Psycho Pirate, Arkham has occasionally hosted The Floronic Man, the Toyman and the Prankster. In The Dark Knight Strikes Again, Plastic Man and Solomon Grundy were inmates too.

Just remembered: Ambush Bug.

[up] I'd watch it.

edited 15th Feb '15 5:44:30 PM by KarkatTheDalek

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Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#27127: Feb 15th 2015 at 5:47:05 PM

I know you're joking but I think a series focused on a news organization in a superhero universe is actually a pretty cool concept.

I'm actually being serious. I put the laugh emoticon because I keep bringing it up, but I really want to see it happen.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#27128: Feb 15th 2015 at 5:50:12 PM

Now that I've heard this idea I'm shocked it's never been done before. There's so much potential.

Pannic Since: Jul, 2009
#27129: Feb 15th 2015 at 5:52:04 PM

...Yeah. A Daily Bugle series sounds like it'd be great.

But only if they get JK Simmons back in the role of J. Jonah Jameson.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#27130: Feb 15th 2015 at 5:53:08 PM

I wonder if they'd be able to afford him.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#27131: Feb 15th 2015 at 5:54:40 PM

Macguire was nothing like 60s comic Peter.

60s comic Peter was an angry jerk not infrequently.

edited 15th Feb '15 5:56:48 PM by Bocaj

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Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#27132: Feb 15th 2015 at 5:55:36 PM

Tobey Macguire reminded me of the original animated series' Peter Parker.

Super mega bland.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#27133: Feb 15th 2015 at 5:55:50 PM

Cut him some slack, his aunt was dying every other issue.

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#27134: Feb 15th 2015 at 6:13:33 PM

[up] x 5: Yeah, a Daily Bugle TV show would be great . . .

But I'm still pretty bitter that they haven't done a Damage Control show yet. Seriously, the aftermath of The Avengers was the perfect place to start it up.

Oh, well. Maybe after Age of Ultron, perhaps.

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Whowho Since: May, 2012
#27135: Feb 15th 2015 at 6:19:05 PM

I like how immature Peter was at the start. Picking fights with JJJ and such. It allowed a line of character development of him wizing up on how to conduct himself as a superhero outside of just fights.

Thing I like most about Spider-man is that he's had to learn first hand everything he knows, but he's been at it so long he's now rivalling super spies in expertise in the field. TASM films made effort to show this beginning as well, which is another reason I was so fond of them.

NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#27136: Feb 15th 2015 at 6:33:07 PM

I wonder if they'd be able to afford him.

Well, the cartoons can afford him regularly, if that's any indication.

Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#27137: Feb 15th 2015 at 6:53:33 PM

Would be cool is Daran Norris could play Jameson since he did the voice in Spectacular Spider-Man. tongue

Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#27138: Feb 15th 2015 at 7:28:18 PM

... If he grew the mustache, i could totally see it.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#27139: Feb 15th 2015 at 7:42:49 PM

He's unavailable because of Under the Dome. He isn't able to make cameos on Better Call Saul because of it, so I doubt he could do a Daily Bugle series.

Dream casting for JJJ (that isn't JK Simmons, because hot damn is he that character personified)? Hugh Laurie.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#27140: Feb 15th 2015 at 7:48:31 PM

J. K. Simmons is J. Jonah Jameson. Accept now substitutions!

BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#27141: Feb 15th 2015 at 7:53:04 PM

Don't get me wrong, he's basically perfect.

But I'm not a big fan of casting actors from previous adaptations in the same role in a new one. And now that I'm thinking about it, I just really want to see Hugh Laurie do an MCU project.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#27142: Feb 15th 2015 at 8:01:23 PM

Ordinarily I'd agree but Jameson is a relatively minor character that only exists for comedic relief and Simmons was such a good actor that I'd make an exception.

If they don't cast him then part of me wants them to go with a black actor just to piss people off. Not sure who they'd pick though. I can't immediately think of any that have had roles like Jameson.

MisterNoh Troper formerly known as Nohbody from Somewhere in Dixie Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Mu
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#27143: Feb 15th 2015 at 8:02:36 PM

^ Bet you a black JJJ would get a bunch of idiots complaining about something like "They're just copying from Man of Steel". tongue

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#27144: Feb 15th 2015 at 8:03:33 PM

That's part of why I suggested it actually.

edited 15th Feb '15 8:03:43 PM by Kostya

NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#27145: Feb 15th 2015 at 8:06:02 PM

Maaaaaaybe Eddie Murphy, if he's in rare form.

BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#27146: Feb 15th 2015 at 8:06:53 PM

I disagree that he's a minor character. At least in the Spider-Man media I'm familiar with (the John Romita era of the comics, the '90s animated series, the Ed Asner animated series, the Raimi films) he's played as important a role as Peter's friends, or Aunt May.

As for a black actor, Laurence Fishburne. Just because I'd find it amusing for him to basically be playing the same character in both the Marvel and DC movies. :P

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#27147: Feb 15th 2015 at 8:07:19 PM

I'd say James Earl Jones.

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#27148: Feb 15th 2015 at 8:07:27 PM

Murphy's kind of wackiness doesn't seem like it would fit Jameson.

BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#27149: Feb 15th 2015 at 8:08:08 PM

James Earl Jones is in his 80's, and is clearly feeling it. He's not in any shape to be playing JJJ.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#27150: Feb 15th 2015 at 8:08:15 PM

I was actually having a conversation with my little sister about it since she surprisingly loves majority of the super hero movies. She preferred Garfield over Mc Guire because she felt Garfield's Peter was more like students she actually knew at her school. That happened to be something I agreed with as well. I've been out of High School for 7 years now, but even then, I always felt like Tobey Mc Guire's Peter, while true to the 60s comic, felt like caricature of a "nerd."

Yeah, of all the criticisms of the ASM movies, I never got the people who complained about the fact that Peter skateboards and doesn't wear sweater vests. They claimed it missed the point that he's supposed to be a nerd and outcast but trust me, the whole T-shirts and skateboard look was the look a lot of the stoners and outcasts at my school used to wears.

There's also the fact that nerd culture is completely different than it was in the 1960's.


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