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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
They're not as localized as you seem to think they are.
Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.Yeah I know but I'm thinking of Jene Loring being sent to Arkham after Identity Crisis when she lived across the country or something. Or at least in another state? DC geography is ambigious.
Plus in a superhero universe they'd probably need more prisons and/or asylums?
I mean Iron Man's secret negative zone prison had a huge population and that's just criminals/arrested heroes with powers.
edited 15th Feb '15 9:19:52 AM by Bocaj
Forever liveblogging the AvengersI'm not sure how it works. Especially in the States.
But I live in the largest city centre in my area, and both the main penitentiary and mental hospital are out of town. There are some facilities, but nothing like what supervillains would be in.
EDIT: Keep in mind that the story whose logic you're questioning in sending Jean Loring to Arkham is Identity Crisis. In the top 10 things wrong with that story, that doesn't even make the list.
edited 15th Feb '15 9:19:53 AM by BadWolf21
He was born on a Monday.
I'm afraid that's all we know, gentlemen.
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I'm not positive, but I think he might have been Christened on Tuesday.
http://whatculture.com/film/10-reasons-miles-morales-shouldnt-be-spider-man-in-civil-war.php
Any time "diversity" is listed as a con, whatever point someone is trying to make instantly flattens.
I'd prefer Peter before Miles, but Miles could still be brought in later on w/o having to kill of Peter. And quite frankly aside from the Donald Glover point and the fact that Peter is in the press release, every one of those reasons blew.
Oh boy.
"Miles isn't iconic" Yeah, but neither were Tony Stark or the Guardians of the Galaxy.
"Peter Parker would have to be dead." Nope. Not necessary at all.
"He's too young" He wouldn't have to be?
... Never mind, this list is too stupid for me to bother with the rest.
"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."Him not being iconic enough seems like being a pretty good reason.
And regarding the Guardians of the Galaxy there's a distinct difference. The Guardians themselves are largely unknown characters. When people say "Who?" about Star-Lord, they're talking about not just who wears the mantle, but the mantle itself.
Spider-Man, on the other hand, is one of the most iconic superheroes ever. And he's iconic as Peter Parker, just like how Bruce Wayne is Batman and Clark Kent is Superman. Miles Morales? One single alternate Spider-Man out of many. What makes him more deserving than Ben Reilly, or Kaine, or Mayday Parker, or Miguel O'Hara?
If they were to ditch Peter Parker for the MCU, I'd be signficantly more hyped for Spidey 2099 than I would Miles Morales Spidey, whose biggest claim to fame is "being the one part of the Ultimate Universe that hasn't folded in on itself yet", and he's not even five years old yet in terms of publishing.
edited 15th Feb '15 10:38:19 AM by Khfan429
If Spider-Man has to be Peter Parker, then at least have colour-blind casting. I've seen some suggestions for Steven Yeun, and I am totally down with that.
"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."@Bad Wolf- That would be cool. IIRC wasn't Batman Beyond supposed to be that at least early in the pipeline? (I thought that was why Terry was sort of Peter Parkery and his rogues gallery were almost all inspired by Spider-Man villains)
I think that article does have a decent point in that if Miles was in the movies, Donald Glover would not be playing him- or if he was, it would be a different version of Miles than the one in the comics.
Well, Andrew Garfield and Donald Glover are the same age, so to the extent it was believable that Garfield is a high school student the same should be true of Glover. It's just that Miles is a young teen whereas Peter is usually an older teen or (in adaptations) a Dawson Cast teen.
edited 15th Feb '15 10:50:14 AM by Hodor2
I think having color-blind casting for Spider-Man is a surefire way to make a good chunk of people mad, for a much better reason than the Human Torch's casting did.
Because Miles Morales exists, casting a black Peter Parker would have Miles's fans up in arms about why they didn't use him. And it's at least more understandable than the uproar about Michael B. Jordan as the Human Torch, since there actually is a black Spider-Man they could use.
I also don't really see Steven Yeun being right for the role anyway. His energy is kind of subdued. Or maybe I'm just too used to Glenn. I dunno.
Anyway, Andrew Garfield, Donald Glover, and Steven Yeun are all very clearly adults. If we're going back to a 16-17 year old Peter, I want to see an actor no older than 21. Spider-Man is a great role for fresh talent.
"Subdued" describes literally every other person who's played Spider-Man in live action. Toby Macguire whispered his way through three movies, and Andrew Garfield wasn't much different in Amazing 1, at least.
I'll agree that it'd be nice to see some fresh talent. But people generally don't know fresh talent well enough to suggest them for fan-castings. That's kind of inherent in being fresh.
"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."

Technically only villains from Gotham should be sent to Arkham.
Other cities should have their own dang asylums and prisons. And probably ones with slightly better success rates.
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