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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#27026: Feb 13th 2015 at 11:36:29 PM

Oo, what about a secret prison in the negative zone?

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#27027: Feb 13th 2015 at 11:55:43 PM

[up][up] Yeah, that's the issue that came up in EMH. They had three prisons full of supervillains in close proximity with each other, all of which failed at exactly the same time due to, iirc, Loki being a dick. Or The Mad Thinker being a dick. Or something. Either way, it went badly. Very badly.

Then a fourth one having a mass breakout soon after nearly doomed the entire planet (well, doomed those who liked having free will and not being gamma irradiated, anyway).

Eventually, they ended up going with...

[up] ... that. Which ended badly when the Negative Zone's original inhabitants decided the liked having a gateway into another universe and went all Zerg Rush on the prison. They killed Blizzard. Those bastards.

edited 14th Feb '15 12:01:07 AM by KnownUnknown

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#27028: Feb 13th 2015 at 11:59:38 PM

I recall one ep of Agents of SHIELD says the Abomination is in cryogenic storage in Alaska. Maybe that's what they could do for supervillains. And if Pym particles become more available after the Ant-Man film, they could also make that prison from She-Hulk where supervillains are shrunken to be unable to harm anybody.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#27029: Feb 14th 2015 at 12:02:42 AM

The Big House

Its an ironic name.

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stingerbrg Since: Jun, 2009
#27030: Feb 14th 2015 at 1:07:10 AM

[up][up]That sounds like something that would happen to villains in Power Rangers.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#27031: Feb 14th 2015 at 1:12:12 AM

In a comic series where trials are held for ghosts, time travel is used for unbiased juries, a young girl has a metal arm twice her height and width, and comic books are legal government approved documentaries, it's just as silly all the time.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#27032: Feb 14th 2015 at 1:46:11 AM

[up][up]That is, in fact, exactly what happens in Time Force. They're cryofrozen into action figures.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#27033: Feb 14th 2015 at 4:44:52 AM

So far we got to see three prisons, the Fridge which was apparently for humans which a normal prison couldn't hold but got destroyed in the take-over, the facility in which the Army had all the confiscated SHIELD Items and Agents (but I doubt that they'll ever made the mistake to put a superpowered being into their very secret facility again), and Asgards Prison. Well, and the Kyln, but not only is it too far away from earth, it also got destroyed.

Every option so far turned out to be vulnerable, though Asgard at least was able to hold some really dangerous villains for ages.

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#27035: Feb 14th 2015 at 10:48:20 AM

[up][up][up]Also in Megas XLR. Grrkek the Planet Killer and other historical villains from a long long time ago in a galaxy far away were digitized into a prison that looked suspiciously like a game cartridge.

Also, I thought the Time Force baddies were cards, but then reverted to figures once defeated, or something?
[down]Huh. I don't think I watched that one.

edited 14th Feb '15 11:08:42 AM by wanderlustwarrior

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#27037: Feb 14th 2015 at 4:52:32 PM

I just started wondering whether, way back during The Consultant, HYDRA as well as the WSC wanted Blonksy for the Avengers Initiative instead of Banner - that being the case, should he have actually gotten the mission and played the "patsy," Sitwell would have "failed" to stop Ross from dealing.

Though clearly it's not like it was any skin off their nose either way.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#27038: Feb 14th 2015 at 4:58:52 PM

If Blonsky was on the Avengers initiative, Hydra probably would have tried to turn him.

That and him being in Hulk's place during Avengers are interesting plot bunnies.

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#27039: Feb 14th 2015 at 4:59:19 PM

I think it depends. Someone like the Hulk but without the Hulk's negative publiclity might have been a boon to them.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#27040: Feb 14th 2015 at 5:21:06 PM

If Sitwell and by extension HYDRA wanted Blonsky on the Avengers, he wouldn't have suggested Stark be sent to sabotage the meeting.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#27041: Feb 14th 2015 at 5:23:40 PM

Hydra didn't want the Avengers at all. We shouldn't forget that the inciative was on hold before Loki happened. So sabotaging Blonski's inclusion was most likely in their own interest.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
Whowho Since: May, 2012
#27043: Feb 14th 2015 at 5:54:31 PM

The Big House is a brilliant idea I'm quite fond of. The inmates can be given quite a bit of internal freedom because it's highly impractical to make an escape or riot. You still have to protect the inmates from each other; but if you have the freedom to keep them comfortable it shouldn't be as much of an issue.

Though I can't help but laugh at the notion of Gravaton being sent to the Big House, declaring 'Gravity is not dictated by size' and absconding to continue his reign of terror, if only now stuck at being one inch tall.

I also read somewhere that Batroc the Leaper is a force to be reckoned with in any 616 prison, because he has no tangible powers to be restrained; he beats up major villains for kicks.

The prison system in the 616 universe just fascinates me. I need to read me some Shulk, because I'm not all that certain if super heroes can even give legal testimony

Blonski could feasibly be rehabilitated, but why risk it? That's the thing about hulk-monsters; if giving them the freedom to move at all puts everything at risk, no one is really inclined to attempt to benefit them.

That would actually make a great standalone Hulk movie. Banner being conflicted with his hope that Blonksi can be rehabilitated.

edited 14th Feb '15 5:57:33 PM by Whowho

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#27044: Feb 14th 2015 at 6:40:08 PM

[up]

While the Netflix series will be a little more subdued in terms of outright superpowers, I do wonder if Daredevil and AKA Jessica Jones will touch on the changes that have to be made to the legal system to account for people who can, for example, emit mind-controlling pheromones.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#27045: Feb 14th 2015 at 8:04:15 PM

I wonder if they'll introduce the concept of power dampeners there or in Civil War.

NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#27046: Feb 14th 2015 at 8:36:19 PM

Who is in Arkham besides Batman villains?

Other than the already mentioned Jean Loring, Dr. Destiny and Psycho Pirate, Arkham has occasionally hosted The Floronic Man, the Toyman and the Prankster. In The Dark Knight Strikes Again, Plastic Man and Solomon Grundy were inmates too.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#27047: Feb 15th 2015 at 7:27:52 AM

I always considered Soloman Grundy to be a Batman Rogue.

NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#27048: Feb 15th 2015 at 7:30:25 AM

He started a Golden Age Green Lantern villain, then moved to Justice Society/Justice League rogue. His times battling Batman solo are relatively scarce.

Ekuran Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#27049: Feb 15th 2015 at 7:48:46 AM

He's Solo from heroes and their rogue galleries, mon.

edited 15th Feb '15 7:49:24 AM by Ekuran

MousaThe14 Writer, Artist, Ignored from Northern Virginia Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Writer, Artist, Ignored
#27050: Feb 15th 2015 at 7:58:41 AM

I always considered him a DC Universe-wide villain becuase my only context for him was the Justice League/JLU cartoons. Yes, he appeared as a boss in Arkham City but that didn't change my perception of him.

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