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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#26701: Feb 11th 2015 at 12:46:54 PM

Well, that's the beauty with the MCU...they can now do it right, and better and built up on it inbetween.

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#26702: Feb 11th 2015 at 12:52:35 PM

Son Of Sharknado: ...I could kind of see Robert Redford as Cap if the MCU existed in the late 70s/80s. Also, Lou Ferrigno as The Hulk.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#26703: Feb 11th 2015 at 12:53:40 PM

-One quick google search later- Mother of God...

Yeah, I kinda figured it was obvious they could just integrate Bixby and Ferrigno onto the silver screen.

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
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#26704: Feb 11th 2015 at 12:54:01 PM

[up][up][up][up] I take it this means a drastic decrease in shock deaths?

edited 11th Feb '15 12:54:14 PM by KarkatTheDalek

Oh God! Natural light!
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#26705: Feb 11th 2015 at 12:56:02 PM

Yes.

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SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#26706: Feb 11th 2015 at 12:57:26 PM

Oh! Oh! And Broderick or Hamill as Spidey.

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higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#26707: Feb 11th 2015 at 12:59:28 PM

[up] Harrison Ford as Hawkeye? grin

EDIT: Michelle Pfeiffer as Black Widow?

edited 11th Feb '15 1:04:01 PM by higherbrainpattern

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#26708: Feb 11th 2015 at 1:01:45 PM

I dunno, it's a good policy in theory but means we couldn't have gotten things like Bucky's return as Winter Soldier. Especially since his wasn't a shock value death, it was just retconned that he died towards the end of WWII.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#26710: Feb 11th 2015 at 1:04:06 PM

[up][up]There's a difference between occasionally bringing back characters in unique and impressive ways, and having a case of Death Is Cheap so bad that at one point a character had plan that involved dying and getting resurrected, with no plan in place for how he'd get resurrected, and it went off without a hitch.

edited 11th Feb '15 1:04:18 PM by Discar

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Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#26711: Feb 11th 2015 at 1:08:54 PM

Bendis summarizes it pretty well◊ unlike most of Marvel's articles which say the same thing but 4 pages longer.

It's because you need four pages to elaborate how this is totally not a reboot and completely different from Crisis On Infinite Earths. tongue

Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#26712: Feb 11th 2015 at 1:09:27 PM

Bendis summarizes it pretty well◊ unlike most of Marvel's articles which say the same thing but 4 pages longer.

It's because you need four pages to elaborate how this is totally not a reboot and completely different from Crisis On Infinite Earths. tongue

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#26713: Feb 11th 2015 at 1:21:04 PM

There's an edit button for fixing typos. :P See, watch me fix tihs.

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#26714: Feb 11th 2015 at 1:21:11 PM

Goddammit.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#26715: Feb 11th 2015 at 1:24:29 PM

So...what will the next spider-man movie be named? The Spectacular Spider-man? The Unltimate Spider-man? The Marvellous Spider-man?

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#26716: Feb 11th 2015 at 1:26:21 PM

The Marketable Spider-Man.

Alternate title: Spider.

  • PETER: So, like, I turned 16 and all, and I was like, "Y'know what? I'm too cool for The -Man!"

edited 11th Feb '15 1:27:40 PM by TobiasDrake

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#26717: Feb 11th 2015 at 1:29:22 PM

I wonder how comics would change if the major companies actually did adopt a "Dead characters stay dead" policy.

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#26718: Feb 11th 2015 at 1:30:34 PM

There'd be a lot fewer characters.

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
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#26719: Feb 11th 2015 at 1:31:24 PM

[up][up][up] I think he really did go through a "Peter Parker is dead! I am THE SPIDER!" phase just before the Clone Saga.

edited 11th Feb '15 1:31:38 PM by KarkatTheDalek

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#26720: Feb 11th 2015 at 1:32:17 PM

Yes, he did. He's also gone through a "Spider-Man No More" phase.

He has rejected both the Spider- and the -Man parts of the name.

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Heatth (X-Troper) Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#26721: Feb 11th 2015 at 1:34:25 PM

Yes. Which means editorial better be doing their jobs and weighing the value of a character before signing off on a death scene, secure in the knowledge of, "If we ever want to use Bob again, we can just rez him."

I would add the caveat that characters are allowed to resurrect if the event moves the story forwards, rather than back. Think in the Winter Soldier. Yeah, Buck is back, but nothing in the dynamic of the character is remotely similar to how things were back when he died. His "resurrection" allowed the story to move forwards without being a step back to a previous status quo.

Otherwise, I am definitively with Drake on "move forwards, not back" thing. Even stupid things that happened due to bad writing. At most they should be revisited by a better writer. Have a flashback or explore their consequences better. But never annul them.

edited 11th Feb '15 1:34:38 PM by Heatth

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#26722: Feb 11th 2015 at 1:35:29 PM

[up][up]The logical next step is to reject both and rechristen himself "The Amazing -."

(See, it's just a hyphen now.)

edited 11th Feb '15 1:36:09 PM by spashthebandragon

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#26723: Feb 11th 2015 at 1:39:53 PM

[up][up] I agree with that caveat.

People argue about, "What about bad writing?" but bad writing is totally subjective. One man's bad writing is another's favorite storyline. Joey Q is a profound example of this; One More Day happened because he considered the marriage to Mary-Jane to be a horrific misstep in the writing of Spider-Man. What many consider today to be the absolute pinnacle of Bad Writing in Spider-Man's history happened to expunge what the creator felt was Bad Writing on the part of someone else.

This is the reason why comics are such an interwoven ball of retcons; because everyone has a different idea of what never should have been allowed to happen, and everyone wants to use their turn at the pen to fix the "bad writing" and restore the character and story to how it "should" be.

edited 11th Feb '15 1:40:38 PM by TobiasDrake

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HextarVigar That guy from The Big House Since: Feb, 2015
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#26724: Feb 11th 2015 at 1:57:02 PM

Hey, the original Superman and the sequel were fucking brill.

Too bad they only made the two movies, though. Imagine if they'd gone for three? Or even four?

edited 11th Feb '15 1:57:19 PM by HextarVigar

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#26725: Feb 11th 2015 at 2:00:54 PM

Man, now I wanna make a thread for the 1980s Cinematic Comic-verse.

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