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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
It's supposed to be better than this. That's why this is so frustrating and disappointing.
"It's very easy to un-marry a character, or fix something like that: you just do a huge universal retcon, and say a few events in history didn't happen. But that's really not the way we do it here at Marvel." ~Joey Quesada, before doing exactly that.
This is One More Day for the entire franchise.
edited 11th Feb '15 10:20:26 AM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.If there can be two Hawkeyes, there can also be two Spider-Mans (Spider-Men?)
Otherwise, they could do an Ant-Man thing and try to scorer the dictionary for various types of spiders/spider related terms.
Or else, Peter is the Amazing or Spectacular Spider-Man and Miles is the Ultimate Spider-Man.
His costume isn't scarlet though.
edited 11th Feb '15 10:23:56 AM by Hodor2
I shall retain hope that its not a company wide reboot.
If they just incorporate elements by jamming the ultimate universe in, its no worse than say *shudder* One More Day or any of the terrible life choices Scarlet Witch constantly makes.
Forever liveblogging the AvengersAnd Ben is the Scarlet Spider-Man!
And Kaine is the Grumpy Spider-Man!
And Gwen is the Woman Spider-Man!
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Let's be honest—this isn't happening for writing reasons. I'm sure most of the folks at Marvel would be content to keep puttering on.
It's happening because the movies are popular, and the comics industry is in the crapper and has been for a while now. The movies have the potential to be a good gateway, but they're incredibly different entities from the movies, and often in ways that are alienating and off-putting. God knows I've never felt tempted to pick up an Iron Man or Captain America book, despite loving both characters on-screen. The Guardians barely resemble their comic-book selves.
You can only keep nipping and tucking for so long before a reboot becomes the more appealing option. And so long as none of the writers pull a "I liked this thing from the old world so I'm gonna drag it back in"—or at least if it doesn't happen a hundred million times until they may as well have not rebooted at all—I'm cool with it.
edited 11th Feb '15 10:26:31 AM by Wackd
Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.![]()
Wait, isn't Spider-Gwen supposed to be getting her own series?
...Does that mean that Gwen Stacy will be alive and well again in the new universe?
edited 11th Feb '15 10:26:26 AM by KarkatTheDalek
Oh God! Natural light!
I certainly hope so. The fact that Marvel really, genuinely feels that one of their best known female supporting cast members is more interesting as something for Spider-Man to mope over than as an actual person with thoughts and feelings has been one of the most appalling things about them for a good long time.
Wait, a possibility exists that Gwen will be alive and not have been horrifically Fridged and may also be written as an entertaining and likable character as has been the trend in her adaptational appearances such as the Spectacular cartoon, the Amazing movies, and the AU Spider-Gwen?
...
I suddenly recant all of my complaints and fully support this reboot.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.I mean, I can acknowledge the importance of Gwen's death and the impact it had, and maybe even respect that, but...it's been what, over 40 years? Might be time to shake things up a bit on that front.
Oh God! Natural light!@Wack'd, It makes sense, but it could start a precedent.
I mean now that they've had a shot of the reboot we don't know if they'll be tempted for more. They've been clean this long, but what if that one taste, one toke of Reboot, and it's all downhill from there and they start using reboot for everything, man!?
Can't decide if a story where Dr. Doom is Dead simultaneously running with one where he's turned the Moon into his universe conquering spaceship? We'll hit up some reboot. The Furys giving you problems? get the cocaine grinder, we're going to get us some more reboot!
We gotta take a stand, stage an intervention! We can't have Marvel sitting in their apartment scribbling nonsensically day in and ay out, alienating all their friends, their family, and co-workers, waiting to get their next fix? This has to be nipped at the bud!
edited 11th Feb '15 10:33:29 AM by MousaThe14
The Blog The ArtSpider-Gwen is already alive and running around doing Spider-Hero things. Spider-Gwen is a Gwen Stacey, but not the Gwen Stacey that died all those years ago. And with her own series having just started and is not 616 or Ultimate, I don't think they will be changing her origins so soon in this Secret Wars thing, and so the whole bridge event with 616!Gwen will not be undone.
Looking in mostly as a comics outsider, it seems like part of the issue is that they have these Spider-characters that are well liked, but exist in a different reality than main universe Peter. They couldn't resist having them pair up with Peter, which is why there's been these inter-universe crossovers. And the next step is naturally to make it so they are in the same universe.
I'm worried about the Squirrel Girl, the Ms Marvel, the Captain Marvel, the Thor and the other such things I'm reading.
@Mousa: They've been doing small reboots like that forever. It was never a thing that didn't happen.
edited 11th Feb '15 10:34:57 AM by Bocaj
Forever liveblogging the AvengersSquirrel Girl isn't and never was going to last long. It never does. I'll be pleasantly surprised if I'm wrong, though.
Thor is almost definitely gonna go poof in time for Ragnarok, unfortunately, reboot or not.
edited 11th Feb '15 10:37:26 AM by Wackd
Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.I really liked Spider-Verse (it had its flaws but the various spiders interacting with each other was a highlight) so I'd be cool if they put some more Spider characters into the main 'verse. Miles and Gwen are very cool. Miguel's fun too but he really needs a time-travel plot or his own series to be relevant.
Did you mean: Ultimate Spider-Man
Fortunately, Ragnarok is years away.
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.When do you think it started to do more harm than good? The trope-namer for Stuffed in the Fridge?
edited 11th Feb '15 10:42:02 AM by KarkatTheDalek
Oh God! Natural light!@Karkat, See several psots above
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@Wack'd, Ah yes, that issue did a very good job of making a character I came to really like die in a horribly pointless and gruesome way by random Carnage. And then they brought her back in a story that was showing the series was going downhill.
Well I mean the art shift was showing that the series was going downhill but the night Gwen Stacy came back was the biggest amount of proof.
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Just because they're doing one now doesn't mean they will now do it all the time.