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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Andrew Garfield's a good guy. He's already on his way to star in at least one other movie, so I'm sure he'll be fine.
I've never actually SEEN the Amazing Spider Man movies. I've heard bad things, but have also seen some cool setpieces.
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One thing they did do very differently is that Peter Parker's parents were very relevant to the story in the ASM series and his father in particular was behind the development of the spiders and even why Peter had a such an...unusual reaction to their venom. I'm not sure how it was in the comics, but in the Sam Raimi series they were totally irrelevant to the story.
It'll be interesting to see how they do things differently still in the MCU Spider-man. Hopefully we can have at least a few major villains that weren't already connected to Peter Parker before they got superpowers. It's not that this idea can't work if it's done well, it's that the Sam Raimi series and the ASM series created a situation where being around Peter Parker dramatically increased your chances of getting superpowers even by random chance.
edited 10th Feb '15 7:56:11 PM by Falrinn
In the 616 comics, I think Peter's parents were SHIELD agents or something. In the Ultimate comics, Peter's dad created Venom. As far as I can tell, the Amazing movies basically just did the Ultimate plotline, only they swapped Venom for Green Goblin, Eddie for Harry, made Peter's dad create the totally-not-radioactive spiders, too, and then gave the parents way too much screen time.
I thought the "Peter Parker's parents where secret agents" plotline was stupid when I was ten...
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I liked the Ultimate comics parents a lot better. At least there they gave a plausible explanation for where Peter's web fluid came from.
The Raimi movies were very straightforward films - like the Burton Batman films. Very self contained plots with a brand new hero's journey and new shift in character development in every installment. The villain was always personally connected to the hero, had a big arc fundamentally linked with the hero that either caused or was effectively the face of the most dramatic upheaval in the hero's life yet, and of course were dramatically killed in the end in way not unlike a Disney villain.
As a result, the main thing that bugs me about Raimi films is that they felt like they were in a vacuum, and that Spider-Man had no life between films. Every supervillain had to be the most important enemy in Peter's life yet, and so it was assumed there weren't any actual important events in Peter's life that wasn't involved with them.
That said, moving away from this formula was something that Marvel really did take a chance about: a lot of what Marvel did in terms of making worldbuilding and characterization a bit more like a comic (that is, with a larger, more serial format in mind) wouldn't have been considered only a couple decades ago.
edited 10th Feb '15 8:18:20 PM by KnownUnknown
It was Lionsgate, and presumably sometime before April 29, 2014, when Agents of SHIELD aired "Nothing Personal".
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Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.Come to think of it, I wonder if the TV shows are going to start name-dropping the Daily Bugle and Spidey villains?
I've got fanfics for Frozen, Spectacular Spider-Man, Crash Bandicoot, and Spyro the Dragon.In fairness, this Spidey business is big news. No one was exactly clamoring for information about Man-Thing.
Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.@Splash- Probably (I definitely hope so character-wise), but it may be too late. Like I know that Ben Urich is in Daredevil, but since the show already filmed, I'm not sure if they'd identify him as tied to the Daily Bugle.
Jessica Jones knew Peter in high school in the comics, but assuming that Marvel wants a younger Peter, they probably wouldn't include that.
So here's a thought:
I know everyone's probably sick of the Miles vs Peter debate, but it occurs to me that giving Peter one film, then introducing Miles as a reluctant ally vs the Sinister Six in the second film — and killing Peter during the final fight — then frees up Miles to face down the Goblin (with the Prowler as a henchman?) in a third Spider-Man film.
It would be an incredibly gutsy move — which is why it won't happen — but I think there's potential there for a really good payoff.
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Maybe they could at least mention Jessica went to Midtown High?
edited 10th Feb '15 9:48:58 PM by spashthebandragon
I've got fanfics for Frozen, Spectacular Spider-Man, Crash Bandicoot, and Spyro the Dragon.I might be okay with MCU Peter dying and getting replaced by Miles if MCU Peter already had plenty of movies under his belt and the actor didn't want to come back. It could work better than recasting Peter yet again.
I've got fanfics for Frozen, Spectacular Spider-Man, Crash Bandicoot, and Spyro the Dragon.

I think they had some vague idea but fan backlash scared them a bit. I remember so much of the first movie was heavily marketed as the secret origin of Spider-Man and "Nothing you knew is the same anymore" but then when it came right down to it what we got for his "Secret origin" was not terribly different from the comics. Or the original movie.
edited 10th Feb '15 7:07:18 PM by comicwriter