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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#26476: Feb 10th 2015 at 4:12:36 PM

Peter Parker's parents were CIA agents personally recruited by Nick Fury.tongue

And in the Ultimateverse Peter's dad helped created the Venom suit and hired by Nick Fury to help create the Super Soldier Formula whilst working with Hank Pym, Johnny and Susan's dad and Bruce Banner,

edited 10th Feb '15 4:17:14 PM by MadSkillz

spashthebandragon thebandragoness from USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
thebandragoness
#26477: Feb 10th 2015 at 4:15:00 PM

[up]So neither of them are average. That still goes against what you said.

Also, Ultimate Miles isn't that much younger than Ultimate Peter (plus I think there was a Time Skip at some point).

edited 10th Feb '15 4:16:18 PM by spashthebandragon

I've got fanfics for Frozen, Spectacular Spider-Man, Crash Bandicoot, and Spyro the Dragon.
GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#26478: Feb 10th 2015 at 4:16:04 PM

For the Marvel universe? Sure. Also, it seems you do only read what you want to read.

This can happen!◊

I could see that with it being Spidey and Thor, maybe.

edited 10th Feb '15 4:23:31 PM by GethKnight

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#26479: Feb 10th 2015 at 4:17:06 PM

Loki is from Philly?

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Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#26480: Feb 10th 2015 at 4:17:57 PM

Oh my god.

Here have some articles.

Now can you please stop complaining every time someone doesn't write a fucking college thesis on why they want Miles Morales in the MCU?

edited 10th Feb '15 4:18:37 PM by Mukora

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#26481: Feb 10th 2015 at 4:18:01 PM

Yep.

West Philadelphia, born and raised.

On the playground is where he spent most of his days.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
MiscellaneousSoup (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#26482: Feb 10th 2015 at 4:18:48 PM

Never mind, I'll re-post my theory at a less hectic time. I'm going to go read or do something else to console myself. I just heard some upsetting news.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#26483: Feb 10th 2015 at 4:19:55 PM

Loki is from Philly?

Isn't it obvious?

edited 10th Feb '15 4:20:39 PM by KnownUnknown

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#26484: Feb 10th 2015 at 4:23:22 PM

@spash Well no. I mean if we're comparing their Ultimateverse incarnations then being the son of a Shield Agent has nothing on Peter being the son of the guy that helped create the Hulk, the Venom suit and the Super Soldier Formula.

Also Peter has an IQ of 250[lol][lol][lol]

edited 10th Feb '15 4:23:46 PM by MadSkillz

CorrTerek The Permanently Confused from The Bland Line Since: Jul, 2009
The Permanently Confused
#26485: Feb 10th 2015 at 4:27:37 PM

It'd be really cool to see Miles Morales on the big screen. It'd also be really cool if people didn't flip out at the mere thought that Marvel wouldn't use Miles — and I mention this because I've already seen people doing it, even on this very site.

Honestly, I'd like to see both of them working together. But then, of course, Miles wouldn't be headlining his own movie.

So on the whole I'd prefer Miles, but I'm not going to be terribly disappointed if we get Peter.

spashthebandragon thebandragoness from USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
thebandragoness
#26486: Feb 10th 2015 at 4:30:43 PM

[up]x6 You know, if people have the right to come onto this thread and say they want Miles to be Spider-Man in the MCU with no context or reasons for their opinion other than "he's not Peter," then I have the right to come onto this thread and express the opposite opinion. You're right, I can't force people to give me elaborate, articulate reasons for their opinion, but I can voice what I find wrong with those opinions on this thread because it's, you know, a discussion thread. For discussing things. Sorry if that annoys you. It annoys me when people say they want Miles to be Spider-Man in the movies just because they don't like Peter. I guess both of us will just have to deal with it, won't we?

[up][up]I don't remember Richard Parker ever helping with Hulk and the Super Serum. I'm guessing that happened in one of the other Ultimate Universe comics besides the main Spidey ones? I never got around to reading those.

Anyways, I think maybe pointing out all the weird backstory stuff is a bad way to gauge how "average" a person is in the Marvel universe. Personality-wise, Peter and Miles both strike me as pretty average people.

[up]Like I said a few pages back, if Marvel had unlimited time and resources, I'd be perfectly happy seeing both Miles AND Peter in the movies.

edited 10th Feb '15 4:33:17 PM by spashthebandragon

I've got fanfics for Frozen, Spectacular Spider-Man, Crash Bandicoot, and Spyro the Dragon.
MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#26487: Feb 10th 2015 at 4:32:28 PM

The next Spider-man we'll get will be called "The Superior Spider-man" starring Otto in Peter's body whose name has been changed to Miles Morales.

spashthebandragon thebandragoness from USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
thebandragoness
#26488: Feb 10th 2015 at 4:33:52 PM

[up]And his love interest will be Silk, whose secret identity has been changed to Carlie Cooper.

I've got fanfics for Frozen, Spectacular Spider-Man, Crash Bandicoot, and Spyro the Dragon.
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#26489: Feb 10th 2015 at 4:34:32 PM

Ben Reilly wasn't shoe-horned in, I'm offended.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#26490: Feb 10th 2015 at 4:34:47 PM

One of the things I really like about Spidey's rogues gallery is that they have a unique general power level that - depending on how they're written / adapted - lets them fight against characters both more and less powerful than Spidey himself. So they can be fit into a ton of various places should the MCU want to do so.

Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#26491: Feb 10th 2015 at 4:34:48 PM

I want Spider-Gwen. Because she's not Peter Parker and she's a woman.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#26492: Feb 10th 2015 at 4:36:05 PM

I want Spider-Gwen because she's not Peter and because I like her costume.

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spashthebandragon thebandragoness from USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
thebandragoness
#26493: Feb 10th 2015 at 4:36:38 PM

[up][up]Well, points for creativity. I at least haven't heard half a zillion people parroting that opinion.

EDIT: Wait a minute, are you saying you want Spider-Gwen in the MCU, or, like, you want Spider-Gwen? *wiggles eyebrows suggestively*

edited 10th Feb '15 4:38:01 PM by spashthebandragon

I've got fanfics for Frozen, Spectacular Spider-Man, Crash Bandicoot, and Spyro the Dragon.
GethKnight Since: Apr, 2010
#26494: Feb 10th 2015 at 4:36:47 PM

I want Venom because he's a black suit and not Peter Parker.

CorrTerek The Permanently Confused from The Bland Line Since: Jul, 2009
The Permanently Confused
#26495: Feb 10th 2015 at 4:37:06 PM

I do feel it's kind of important to acknowledge Miles' history as a legacy hero.

In fact, perhaps the golden path would be to find a way to make Amazing 1 and 2 broad-strokes canon to the MCU (like how Avengers shows bits from Incredible Hulk, but never goes into detail), and explicitly state that that Spider-Man died. Now Miles is taking his place.

It would suck not to give Garfield!Spidey a proper send-off, but if you're going to go with Miles that's not a terrible way to do it.

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#26496: Feb 10th 2015 at 4:37:55 PM

Hey, out of pure curiosity, where in the comics does this happen?

deathpigeon Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
#26497: Feb 10th 2015 at 4:38:35 PM

The next Spider-man we'll get will be called "The Superior Spider-man" starring Otto in Peter's body whose name has been changed to Miles Morales.

Then Mephisto will show up to make a deal with Miles to save his clone, Gwen Stacy, at the cost of his marriage to Cindy Moon.

spashthebandragon thebandragoness from USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#26499: Feb 10th 2015 at 4:39:28 PM

Wait a minute, are you saying you want Spider-Gwen in the MCU, or, like, you want Spider-Gwen? *wiggles eyebrows suggestively*
Yes.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
Wackd Since: May, 2009
#26500: Feb 10th 2015 at 4:39:48 PM

[up]x4 'S from Civil War.

It occurs to me that doing Miles doesn't require Peter at all—only that Miles have powers around the time of the death of a superhero in battle and feel guilt that he's been squandering his potential and could've prevented it. From there, if he came up with the Spider-Man identity and outfit on his own, I'd be okay with that.

edited 10th Feb '15 4:40:03 PM by Wackd

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.

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