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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

AnotherGuy Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#26126: Feb 9th 2015 at 8:55:37 PM

Not necessarily. The MCU will implode under its own weight in 2 years. Book it. And I don't see how that will stop Spidey films from flopping.

DrFurball Since: Jan, 2001
#26127: Feb 9th 2015 at 8:58:51 PM

So, does this mean that the Amazing films are retroactively set in the MCU? I'm kinda hoping it's not, because while I didn't think they were bad movies, they did kinda take some big liberties with the mythos I wasn't comfortable with, and that maybe by being in a new continuity, they don't have to stick to those decisions.

edited 9th Feb '15 8:59:47 PM by DrFurball

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#26128: Feb 9th 2015 at 8:59:28 PM

[up][up]People have been saying this for years now. Remember when GOTG was gonna be the death knell of the MCU last year?

[up]The article says there is gonna be a new actor playing Peter.

edited 9th Feb '15 9:00:23 PM by comicwriter

BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#26129: Feb 9th 2015 at 8:59:31 PM

No. Read the article.

Marvel is debuting a new Spider-Man in the MCU, and then Sony is using that Spider-Man for yet another reboot.

AnotherGuy Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#26130: Feb 9th 2015 at 9:05:01 PM

IF you don't think things will saturate...

But hey, no one would EVER get tired of Guitar Hero, right? Right? And trust me, Sony knows how to milk something dry,

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#26131: Feb 9th 2015 at 9:06:14 PM

Now I wanna know are we gonna get Spider-Woman in an Avengers sequel out of this?

AnotherGuy Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#26132: Feb 9th 2015 at 9:06:47 PM

How fast did the Spider Man movies wear out their welcome again?

DrFurball Since: Jan, 2001
#26133: Feb 9th 2015 at 9:07:29 PM

I'm honestly more interested in seeing Spidey team up with Daredevil or Doctor Strange than I am seeing him join the Avengers.

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#26134: Feb 9th 2015 at 9:07:32 PM

Be cool if they have Miles Morales Spider-Man, although I'd be happy as long as they don't have annoying cartoon Ultimate Spider-Man Spider-Man.

With this news, I wonder if this means that Spidey's baddies can be introduced in the MCU- specifically as Thunderbolts.

Mithridates There are no strings on me... from Sydney Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
There are no strings on me...
#26135: Feb 9th 2015 at 9:09:05 PM

[up][up][up] You could argue the Spidey films wore out quickly due to a lack of diversity in their basic structure. The MCU has the advantage of being able to change up it's subject matter and genre in a way that a one hero franchise can't.

I think the MCU might wane eventually, but not in the next two years I'd think, especially considering the success of the two most recent films in TWS and Got G.

edited 9th Feb '15 9:11:14 PM by Mithridates

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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#26136: Feb 9th 2015 at 9:09:30 PM

10 bucks say they'll announce who will be MCU!Spidey in SDCC this year at the earliest.

Also, Holy Crap!

Is this really happening?! gringrin

That's...wait for it...AMAZING!!!

EDIT: Rejoicing aside, I can't help but hope Andrew Garfield doesn't have his career crash and burn after being Spidey for only 2 movies.

edited 9th Feb '15 9:12:45 PM by TargetmasterJoe

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#26137: Feb 9th 2015 at 9:11:09 PM

MCU has changed up some release dates.

Thor is now November 2017, Black Panther is now Summer 2018, Captain Marvel is November 2018, and Inhumans has been pushed back to 2019.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#26139: Feb 9th 2015 at 9:12:41 PM

ugh all these movies are going to take so long

someone put me in suspended animation until they're all out that never goes poorly

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#26140: Feb 9th 2015 at 9:14:10 PM

Kind of worried they are going to end up shelving Black Panther and Captain Marvel.

Ekuran Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#26141: Feb 9th 2015 at 9:16:48 PM

[up][up]I can give you all Marvel movies that will ever be at the low low cost of your immortal soul. Also your wife.

Just sign on the dotted line in blood here and here and here and...

edited 9th Feb '15 9:18:08 PM by Ekuran

Mithridates There are no strings on me... from Sydney Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
There are no strings on me...
#26142: Feb 9th 2015 at 9:16:58 PM

[up][up] I don't think that should be too much of a concern, the threat of major public backlash for retracting their only minority and female led films would be huge risk for Marvel to take. That and what would they put in to replace those films at this stage?

edited 9th Feb '15 9:18:06 PM by Mithridates

'Worthy? How could you be worthy?'
Wackd Since: May, 2009
#26143: Feb 9th 2015 at 9:17:40 PM

I'm happy about Spider-Man but sad stuff's getting pushed back. I dunno about you guys but I don't have a problem with the idea of there not being another Spider-Man film until 2021.

Unless it's Miles Morales, in which case they should just cancel Civil War right now and do that instead.

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Role Model
#26144: Feb 9th 2015 at 9:17:45 PM

Ugh. I'm going to hope that the pushbacks aren't related to the Spider Man news, but really...

BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#26145: Feb 9th 2015 at 9:18:23 PM

There's also the fact that they already have an actor on board to play Black Panther, and Captain Marvel is their namesake hero. They want the latter to get more recognition, and they're too invested in the former to back out now.

There's literally no reason to shelve them, and no reason to think they will except for doomsaying.

EDIT: Am I the only person who doesn't give a flying fuck about Miles Morales?

edited 9th Feb '15 9:19:05 PM by BadWolf21

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#26146: Feb 9th 2015 at 9:18:46 PM

I'm not married. Is the deal still valid?

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#26147: Feb 9th 2015 at 9:20:15 PM

I'm not worried. It looks like the issue stems from them pushing Thor 3 back for some reason. It's taking Black Panther's original November release date so that seems to be what resulted in the other 3 getting moved back.

BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#26148: Feb 9th 2015 at 9:22:53 PM

It's probably Spider-Man related, but just to get out of Sony's way, now that Marvel doesn't have to directly compete with them. 2017 is when the article says Sony is debuting their new series.

Which means that the movie he's debuting in for Marvel is almost 100% Civil War.

Ekuran Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#26149: Feb 9th 2015 at 9:22:58 PM

[up][up][up]An aborted fetus will do fine as well.

Mmmmmmm. Precious embryonic fluid.

edited 9th Feb '15 9:23:07 PM by Ekuran

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#26150: Feb 9th 2015 at 9:24:03 PM

The prospect of Civil War has be both excited and worried because I'm hoping we don't end up with a really rushed rewrite.

Hopefully they had some sort of contingency plan in place in case they got Spidey.


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