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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#25951: Feb 6th 2015 at 3:32:50 PM

I do remember calling Inhumans back when Iron Man 3 came out, and Killian was going on about untapped potential.

MousaThe14 Writer, Artist, Ignored from Northern Virginia Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#25952: Feb 6th 2015 at 4:20:02 PM

Between that, the stuff going on in Ao S, and the fact Loki's scepter "unlocked" something in the twins, I get the feeling the entire theme of the universe is "Untapped Potential and What Can Happen When it's Tapped".

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Wackd Since: May, 2009
#25953: Feb 6th 2015 at 4:29:29 PM

...y'know, I'm trying to think of a pop-culture gag from a Whedon work that isn't just kind of a mild lampshade of the tropes of the show they're in, and I'm failing abysmally. I'm assuming they all happen in Angel or Dollhouse because I haven't seen those.

EDIT: Oh! "Flying monkeys!" That's one. And Galaga, I suppose, though in fairness that guy was playing Galaga so it's not like Tony was like "I'm gonna name-drop an 80s computer game and be hilarious."

edited 6th Feb '15 4:30:48 PM by Wackd

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#25954: Feb 6th 2015 at 4:32:55 PM

Wasn't that part add-libbed?

MousaThe14 Writer, Artist, Ignored from Northern Virginia Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#25956: Feb 6th 2015 at 4:42:15 PM

And then they threw in a scene to make the ad-lib real and even funnier? I love it even more.

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#25957: Feb 6th 2015 at 6:31:38 PM

James Gunn talks about GOTG 2. He says that in addition to the mystery about Star-Lord's dad, we're going to meet several new characters who will be very important to the franchise and the MCU as a whole.

He also says the sequel is not based off any particular story.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#25959: Feb 6th 2015 at 6:57:53 PM

What if Adam Warlock is his dad?

And what if the new characters added are Moondragon and Phyla-Vell and neither of them die?

That'd be a nice change.

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Ekuran Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
#25960: Feb 6th 2015 at 7:03:04 PM

The first one is the leading theory. My personal addition is that he's the same species as Thanos, just to double down on their connection from the comics.

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#25961: Feb 6th 2015 at 7:08:41 PM

My personal leading theory is that he's the son of that brother of Black Bolt's, unless the Inhumans is going to be a terrestrial or near-earth story. I'd like to see something like War Of Kings come into play.

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#25962: Feb 6th 2015 at 7:09:03 PM

It being Warlock would mean that Magus would be involved since he's kind of one of the biggest cosmic dicks in Marvel.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#25963: Feb 6th 2015 at 7:10:43 PM

I guess he might be Thanos' secret son or something? That's part of what Infinity was about. Not the reveal I'd prefer though.

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#25964: Feb 6th 2015 at 7:13:14 PM

And what if the new characters added are Moondragon and Phyla-Vell and neither of them die?

I'd like that. Moondragon also has ties to both the Guardians and the Avengers.

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#25965: Feb 6th 2015 at 10:01:07 PM

So I'm watching Iron Man 2, and not only did Howard Stark know he was going to dwarf the arms race with what he was doing, but Vanko actually had first credit on the arc reactor blueprints. I'm still inclined to believe that Vanko Sr. just go shat on hypocritically.

I wonder if Howard knew he was going to be killed by Zola.

Also, Hammer was playing golf with the Senator. I wonder if he was being vetted for HYDRA, or was in anyway involved. Interesting world they've built. Would've been really nice to have seen the Senator respond to the abduction of the President. But then you'd have to wonder why SHIELD didn't.

edited 6th Feb '15 10:21:05 PM by wanderlustwarrior

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#25966: Feb 7th 2015 at 8:07:54 AM

Gunn says he's introducing a new couple of characters to the Guardians. Gee I hope that's an intentional choice of words.

I'm not sure how I feel about the idea of Quill being part of the Inhuman royal family. For me the Inhumans are about two sisters dealing with the fact that one of them married them into royal politics. I DO like the idea of Thanos being Quill's farther; because Thanos is so much more interesting with his arbitrary attempts at being a family man. Plus; Thanos in love with death; why wouldn't he bed a woman who is slowly dying of cancer?

Wackd Since: May, 2009
#25967: Feb 7th 2015 at 8:14:28 AM

I keep coming back to Starmom's description of Starlord's dad as "an angel made of pure light."

I don't think Thanos quiiiiite fits.

Maybe you'd be less disappointed if you stopped expecting things to be Carmen Sandiego movies.
ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#25968: Feb 7th 2015 at 8:15:21 AM

Maybe Quill's dad was a REALLY tiny celestial?

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#25969: Feb 7th 2015 at 8:19:10 AM

I'm going with a Celestial until we have evidence otherwise.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
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#25970: Feb 7th 2015 at 8:19:48 AM

I'm starting to think it was Adam Warlock.

Oh God! Natural light!
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#25971: Feb 7th 2015 at 8:22:06 AM

How can a Celestial hide from those child support notices. They're thousands of feet tall!

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#25972: Feb 7th 2015 at 8:22:30 AM

I think we can safely conclude that whoever Peter's father is, he can't be an inhuman. After all, Inhumans are basically humans on which was tampered by the Kree, right? But Peter's second half is "something really ancient" which even Xandarians can't identify. I doubt that they wouldn't be able to recognize slightly tampered human DNA. Plus, in this case Peter would be more than only half human. though perhaps his father is a celestial.

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#25973: Feb 7th 2015 at 8:30:10 AM

"Angel of light" doesn't fit many cosmic characters in Marvel. Adam Warlock could probably be called one since he uses glowing magic a lot and has golden skin.

I keep thinking it's going to be Starhawk/Stakar Ogord. Hell, he even has wings of light.

(Sidenote, the wikia has a great quote from him: I am the wisdom and the glory of your ancestors. I am the light and the giver of light. I am your heritage and your destiny! I am the POWER that was Arcturus!)

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#25974: Feb 7th 2015 at 8:38:00 AM

Swanpride: Inhumans aren't genetically altered humans. I'm pretty sure they're a crossbreed of human and Kree.

@Celestial being the father: I'm supporting this for a couple of reasons. The first is that Quill was able to hold the infinity gem for a brief time, something only the Celestials have been known to do. The second is that they refer to his father as "Something ancient". That doesn't leave a whole lot of options. As for the Angel of Light comment my take on it is that the Celestial didn't physically appear before Quill's mother. It makes me think of how in Greek mythology Zeus impregnated a woman by appearing as a golden light/shower of gold that enveloped her. I'm guessing something similar happened here.

edited 7th Feb '15 8:38:32 AM by Kostya

GeekCodeRed Since: Sep, 2010
#25975: Feb 7th 2015 at 8:39:29 AM

Or maybe it literally was Zeus.


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