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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

DrFurball Since: Jan, 2001
#25776: Feb 3rd 2015 at 2:23:19 PM

It's worth noting that Thanos wasn't originally in The Avengers to begin with. The Chitauri were on loan from Loki but the intial drafts had been be on loan from themselves, not from Thanos commanding them.
Wasn't Thanos a last-minute addition from Joss Whedon because he's such a fan of the character? From my understanding, it was kinda sort of a Throw It In moment. And it's funny, because it seems to have set up the rest of Phase 2 AND 3.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#25777: Feb 3rd 2015 at 2:58:25 PM

That is also true. Whedon also edited some of The First Avenger's script, turning the Cosmic Cube into a Norse artifact from space, which also worked out for the Thanos reveal.

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#25778: Feb 3rd 2015 at 3:13:13 PM

I'm still not sold on if Thanos was a good idea. Sure it will give a reason to show off the entire MCU, but I'm not sure how much I want to see The Avengers get distracted from terrestrial and interpersonal issues.

Then again, the Avengers movie's justification for why the team exists at all (To intimidate unknown cosmic powers to back off) is brilliant. I'm just biased because the Avenger stories I always favoured were ones like Civil War and Dark Reign which is concerned with how a superhero team interacts with the world it inhabits.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#25779: Feb 3rd 2015 at 3:16:19 PM

I think it is a good thing that they are currently working torwards a certain point.

Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#25780: Feb 3rd 2015 at 3:19:00 PM

What was the Cosmic Cube in the comics? I know it wasn't the Space Gem.

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Whowho Since: May, 2012
#25781: Feb 3rd 2015 at 3:21:38 PM

A box which could grant wishes.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#25782: Feb 3rd 2015 at 3:25:37 PM

I believe it was created by AIM, which was commanded by the Red Skull. It lets one warp reality, control minds, and grant wishes, but needs to be "charged" before use. Thus the Skull's and Thanos's massacres while having the Cube are first to convert death into energy. Lifepower and all that.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#25783: Feb 3rd 2015 at 3:26:33 PM

The story that springs to mind most with the Cosmic cube for me is when Namor had it. And Namor squandered the hell out of it.

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Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#25784: Feb 3rd 2015 at 3:34:47 PM

Infinity stones are industructable, aren't they? Maybe a good thing that they have a bunch of reusable Mc Guffins.

BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#25785: Feb 3rd 2015 at 3:36:25 PM

Who said anything about them being indestructible? Even if they are in the comics, those rules don't necessarily apply in the movies.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#25786: Feb 3rd 2015 at 3:36:51 PM

Thor managed to blow the Aether to smithereens, only for it to promptly reform, so I assume they're indestructible even in their non-gem states.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#25787: Feb 3rd 2015 at 3:43:18 PM

Captain America managed to break the infinity gems in the comics. By shoving an entire universe.

edited 3rd Feb '15 3:43:43 PM by Bocaj

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BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#25788: Feb 3rd 2015 at 3:46:15 PM

[up][up] The Aether also presented itself in a mostly gaseous state.

I'm of the opinion that if you know what you're doing, nothing is indestructible. Very very tough to destroy maybe, but not impossible.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#25789: Feb 3rd 2015 at 3:46:55 PM

Well, those things are as old as time, Thor's any attempt to get rid of one backfired and for some reason nobody else, not even Odin, ever tried to get rid of them, even though they are dangerous. Everyone always just tries to keep them apart. If there were a way to destroy them, wouldn't someone try that instead of putting them into a vault? So I kind of assumed that they are for infinity and beyond.

edited 3rd Feb '15 3:47:51 PM by Swanpride

ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#25790: Feb 3rd 2015 at 3:48:36 PM

Theoretically, they could just drop one into a black hole.

That's kinda hard to get something out of.

BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#25791: Feb 3rd 2015 at 3:49:25 PM

You're assuming that anyone we've met so far has sufficient power and knowledge of them to make any kind of serious attempt.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#25792: Feb 3rd 2015 at 3:49:29 PM

Oo, drop the space stone into a black hole!

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#25793: Feb 3rd 2015 at 3:51:37 PM

An unexpected error has occured at line 59639519 of spacetime.exe. Save your work and close any open programs.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#25795: Feb 3rd 2015 at 4:35:28 PM

Every time a movie has something important be dropped in a black hole, it just ends up being a portal to another place or other time. Way more risky than keeping it locked up.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#25796: Feb 3rd 2015 at 4:36:23 PM

How often do black holes appear in stuff anyway?

I used to be quite the afficionado of black holes appearing in things but I was broken, broken I say by the usages.

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#25797: Feb 3rd 2015 at 4:38:26 PM

Off the top of my head, within this last decade Star Trek (2009), The LEGO Movie, and Interstellar all had black holes that led to someplace.

And the last work I remember where a black hole was actually lethal was Super Mario Galaxy. The same game where you can breathe in space.

edited 3rd Feb '15 4:39:45 PM by Tuckerscreator

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#25798: Feb 3rd 2015 at 5:17:39 PM

The one in LEGO wasn't called a black hole, just a bottomless rift or something like that.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#25799: Feb 3rd 2015 at 5:38:05 PM

Why can't we get back to the good old days where black holes led straight to hell?

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wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#25800: Feb 3rd 2015 at 7:15:09 PM

When was that ever a thing?


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