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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#25576: Jan 30th 2015 at 7:23:59 PM

I'm skeptical of the quality that Batman v. Superman will have, but have no opinion on Wonder Woman's until we see what Gal Gadot as her is like.

edited 30th Jan '15 7:56:54 PM by Tuckerscreator

BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#25577: Jan 30th 2015 at 7:54:06 PM

[up][up] I didn't say anything about the genre. I was talking about the medium as a whole.

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#25578: Jan 30th 2015 at 8:20:31 PM

Audiences are crazy, and often go for the recognizeable name or face, or the best marketing. Wonder Woman will be following her appearance in a movie with Batman (who everyone is on the dick of)
I resent that comment. tongue I hate Batman.

Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#25579: Jan 30th 2015 at 8:34:32 PM

I like Batman, but I don't like any of the movies featuring him.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
BadWolf21 Since: May, 2010
#25580: Jan 30th 2015 at 8:52:02 PM

Batman Begins is a fantastic film. The Dark Knight is really good, though overrated. And Michael Keaton was great as the character, even if the movies were kind of eh. Thus is my stance on Batman movies. :P

Back to Marvel...I got nothing. So I'll go back to an old stand-by topic-changer. Who would you like to see cast as Medusa in Inhumans?

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Role Model
#25581: Jan 30th 2015 at 10:23:49 PM

I don't know. And it'd be interesting, since if the film was co-lead by (Vin Diesel or someone as) a mute Black Bolt and Medusa reading him, Medusa would have more of the "acting weight".

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#25582: Jan 30th 2015 at 11:24:30 PM

Christina hendricks? She's a good actress and she's also currently a redhead.

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Role Model
#25583: Jan 30th 2015 at 11:35:11 PM

As much as I would love to see more of her, I just don't see it. Wouldn't mind at all, though.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#25584: Jan 31st 2015 at 12:42:10 AM

So, in looking up Hellcat after the update that she'd be in the Jessica Jones show, I'm... interested. Her history is definitely odd, but she seems like a neat character with a nice niche to add to the MCU (or maybe, depending on how separate they are, we should just call it the MTVU).

And her comicvine page led me to this character, who I'm now convinced is too insane not to appear somewhere. tongue

I didn't say anything about the genre. I was talking about the medium as a whole.

If you're not saying anything about genre, then you should. Genre is important, because a lot of the decision making process - and especially the prejudices and type conventions people in development tend to stick to - are different depending on the genre and type of film being made. The people who make decisions Disney Animated Canon movies are not the same people who make decisions for Marvel movies, and they are likely to have widely different webs of influence, and kinds of tendencies.

Disney, and animated movies in general to a lesser extent, have the benefit of a long history of certain kinds of female leads (especially given Disney's princess focus) to color their perception of how prominent female characters should be, for example. Frozen, in turn, is more likely the influence movies that are similar in genre to it than it is to influence movies that have little in common with it genre wise, let alone the entire film industry, simply because of how insular such things tend to be these days.

edited 31st Jan '15 12:44:57 AM by KnownUnknown

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#25585: Jan 31st 2015 at 2:10:56 AM

I agree that Frozen is only another movie in a string of female lead entries. And certainly not the first overhelming success in the Disney Princess line-up. If you look on the "highest grossing movies of all time adjusted for inflation", it's not Frozen which is Disney's most successful movie. It is Snow White. One shouldn't forget that Cinderella once rescued the Disney Studios, that the little Mermaid started the Disney Renaissance, that Beauty and the Beast is to this day the only traditional animated ever nominated for a best pixar, and that, before Frozen was the highest grossing animated movie (not adjusted for inflation), Tangled carried the title. Disney not only has a tradition of doing movies with female leads, they also tend to be the most successful movies they make (which is why so many people so easily forget that Disney makes more than Disney Princess movies, and that, if Disney wouldn't do that, there were barely any female lead movies in western animation at all).

Hunger Games helps in that there are males admitting to liking the movie, but Hunger Games was made for the (mostly female) readers of the books.

I wish that Agent Carter were a rating success. I don't get it, so many people seem to love the show, and rightly so, but the ratings keep slipping. On the upsite, there are apparently a lot of male viewers watching the show.

GeekCodeRed Since: Sep, 2010
#25586: Jan 31st 2015 at 5:18:19 AM

Uh, Highest Grossing Animated Film used to be Toy Story 3. And before that, I think it was The Lion King.

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
Heatth (X-Troper) Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#25588: Jan 31st 2015 at 6:21:04 AM

[up][up][up]The thing is that, before, Disney was seemingly trying to distance themselves from princess movies and even Tangled tried hard to 'appeal to boys' by not having a female name in the title and really pushing the male love interest into the spot light. Frozen, meanwhile, had Kristoff, sure, but he wasn't nearly as central as Flynn. Frozen is important because it shows Disney they can place the focus solely on the female characters again and they will still sell.

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Role Model
#25589: Jan 31st 2015 at 6:24:45 AM

Umm... They did have Brave and The Princess and the Frog before that, and other films. Frozen was just more popular in the moment than some of those others.

crimsonstorm15 shine on from A parallel universe Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
shine on
#25590: Jan 31st 2015 at 6:27:57 AM

i will say this much about the Wonder Woman movie.

if that thing does not start out with this song being played full blast over the opening credits, then it's already starting in the red.

i'm serious.

All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not.
Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#25591: Jan 31st 2015 at 6:38:13 AM

A version of the song certainly should make it into the movie somehow.

In a way, that's the downside of the character. The audience already has an idea about her. While with Captain M Arvel, you can get away with a lot.

edited 31st Jan '15 6:38:57 AM by Swanpride

Heatth (X-Troper) Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#25592: Jan 31st 2015 at 6:39:10 AM

[up][up][up]From wikipedia, they both fared well but less than expected. And the blame for that was placed on female character/title for that. Also, Brave is from Pixar, so not quite a Disney movie.

edited 31st Jan '15 6:39:30 AM by Heatth

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#25593: Jan 31st 2015 at 6:49:12 AM

I wonder if some smart guy at Disney is already trying to figure out where in Disney World the best place to build "Marvel Land" is.

Wackd Since: May, 2009
Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#25595: Jan 31st 2015 at 8:01:53 AM

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I think there are some weird rights issues involved, Marvel didn't just license out movie rights back before they were bought by a giant anthropomorphic mouse. But I would be astounded if there somewhere in Disney's secret vaults there isn't any, if only tentative, blueprints for just that.

edited 31st Jan '15 8:02:29 AM by Falrinn

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#25596: Jan 31st 2015 at 8:10:36 AM

[up]But shouldn't they still have the full rights to the Avenger characters? After all, I doubt that anyone was particulary interested in all those b-listers. They can start the park with them. Or did they sell the licnses to all characters to some park? In this case, I would be very surprised if the contract is permanent. Sooner or later the contract will end. There is no reason not to start planing in building beforhand, they just have to wait with the actual opening of the park....

edited 31st Jan '15 8:12:19 AM by Swanpride

stingerbrg Since: Jun, 2009
#25598: Jan 31st 2015 at 9:48:55 AM

[up][up]Universal Islands of Adventure is where you want to go to get your Marvel Theme Park needs. Among the other things, they have a Hulk roller coaster.

Heatth (X-Troper) Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#25600: Jan 31st 2015 at 9:59:04 AM

[up][up]Which is one awesome roller coaster. I like the Spider-Man attraction also. Anyway, character rights are weird, even for amusement parks.


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