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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#25476: Jan 29th 2015 at 12:11:46 PM

Next year's big LEGO game is probably going to be a new Star Wars one.

spashthebandragon thebandragoness from USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#25477: Jan 29th 2015 at 12:11:59 PM

[up][up]It's a safe bet those Age of Ultron characters are in it, at least.

edited 29th Jan '15 12:12:25 PM by spashthebandragon

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MousaThe14 Writer, Artist, Ignored from Northern Virginia Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#25478: Jan 29th 2015 at 12:17:12 PM

... Amora the Enchantress, Captain Mar-Vell, Noh-Varr, The Executioner, I was really surprised Wonderman didn't make it in...

[up]Probably. It's just I had collected every single minifig and was rather disappointed I wouldn't be able to play with a character with superspeed In the Lego world.

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#25479: Jan 29th 2015 at 12:19:33 PM

But most of those "new" characters were already in the first Lego Marvel game. This seems like a step backwards.

They have an Avengers movie coming out of course they're going to put out something with the Avengers branding and focusing on that franchise in particular. They're not just gonna leave money on the table.

I'm honestly not entirely sure what the problem is.

edited 29th Jan '15 12:24:07 PM by comicwriter

spashthebandragon thebandragoness from USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#25480: Jan 29th 2015 at 12:36:37 PM

[up][up]I think it's weird too because the Lego Batman games have Flash, and these games love recycling gameplay mechanics. You'd think they could've just copy and pasted him in and changed his character model...

[up]The first Lego Marvel game already had a huge focus on Avengers stuff. Everyone from The Avengers had on their movie outfits, the Helicarrier was prominent in the Hub world, Loki was a major villain... So now they're putting out a game that's even more Avengers, only (presumably) without all the other Marvel characters in it. Sounds like a cheap cash-in to me. If this game doesn't have anything to new to offer besides "based even more on the movies," why should anyone want to play it, exactly? If it really doesn't have any non-MCU characters, I'll probably skip this one unless it introduces some huge new gameplay mechanic or something (An actual combat system would be nice. Mashing the square button gets real old).

edited 29th Jan '15 12:39:24 PM by spashthebandragon

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comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#25481: Jan 29th 2015 at 12:40:00 PM

If this game doesn't have anything to new to offer besides "based even more on the movies," why should anyone want to play it, exactly?

Because the Avengers have huge popularity, particularly among kids? It's a license to print money.

edited 29th Jan '15 12:40:39 PM by comicwriter

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#25482: Jan 29th 2015 at 12:43:52 PM

[up]So basically the game makers are assuming kids are too dumb to realize "Marvel = Avengers" so they have to make sure the Avengers are in the game's title and even more prominent than they already were? That's probably it. I'm not being sarcastic. That's probably the reason this Lego Avengers game exists.

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#25483: Jan 29th 2015 at 12:48:07 PM

Very little of Lego Marvel was based on the movies. It had plentiful Shout Outs, but that is not the same thing.

The Avengers shared equal screentime with the Fantastic Four, Spider-Man, and the X-Men, while the main villain was Doctor Doom and the final boss was Galactus, both of which are tied up in the Fantastic Four rights.

edited 29th Jan '15 12:49:12 PM by TobiasDrake

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#25484: Jan 29th 2015 at 12:53:49 PM

[up]It was based on the movies visually, at least (except for the Sony/Fox characters, who had their classic comic looks presumably for legal reasons). And, really, Marvel movies are more about the characters than the exact details of the story anyways. I can understand Lego Harry Potter or Star Wars wanting to recreate the movies' plots, but for the Avengers, I'm not sure how much difference it makes if it follows the plot of the movie exactly once you simplify everything to the point that Lego games do.

Also, I have to question that "equal screentime" claim. I'm pretty sure the non-Wolverine X-Men only got one level.

edited 29th Jan '15 12:55:20 PM by spashthebandragon

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MousaThe14 Writer, Artist, Ignored from Northern Virginia Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#25485: Jan 29th 2015 at 12:55:00 PM

No, the main villain was Loki. He was explicitly using the other villains to get Galactus to come to eat earth as revenge on Thor.

Also, they used Movie Heimdall and movie Rainbow bridge.

edited 29th Jan '15 12:55:53 PM by MousaThe14

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higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#25486: Jan 29th 2015 at 1:14:19 PM

Rachael Taylor has been cast as Patsy Walker in A.K.A Jessica Jones.

edited 29th Jan '15 1:14:48 PM by higherbrainpattern

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#25487: Jan 29th 2015 at 1:18:24 PM

Hellcat! I never expected to see her in the MCU.

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#25488: Jan 29th 2015 at 1:23:33 PM

I am excite.

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LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#25489: Jan 29th 2015 at 1:28:03 PM

Hellcat works great in the latest She-Hulk book.

MousaThe14 Writer, Artist, Ignored from Northern Virginia Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#25490: Jan 29th 2015 at 1:31:57 PM

Okay, who's Hellcat?

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#25491: Jan 29th 2015 at 1:36:43 PM

Also, they used Movie Heimdall

That's because that's most people's first exposure to the character. The TV shows and all-ages boos do that too.

Patsy Walker is interesting. I'm presuming she'll be an Expy / Suspiciously Similar Substitute since they can't use Carol Danvers. I know way back when this show was first announced the writer said Carol would be in it like the comics, but the movie plans probably nixed that.

edited 29th Jan '15 1:39:52 PM by comicwriter

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#25493: Jan 29th 2015 at 1:41:27 PM

Hadn't heard of the character. Looking at The Other Wiki, sounds interesting ([up][up] the above is also a good point), but I think they might have to lose the Batgirlesque costume.

edited 29th Jan '15 1:41:39 PM by Hodor2

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#25494: Jan 29th 2015 at 1:54:29 PM

HELLCAT

ONCE UPON A TIME MARVEL TRIED TO APPEAL TO WOMEN READERS AND THEY INTRODUCED THE CAT

It did not last many issues and the character eventually became Tigra

But the suit that gave Greer her powers was taken by Big Evil Corp (maybe Roxxon? Can't remember) and was found by Patsy Walker (a former star of Marvel's romance comics??) while she was hanging around the Avengers during one of their struggles with the Serpent Crown and the Squadron Supreme Verse.

I can't remember why but she wanted to become a superhero and she wanted Beast to make it happen. She happens to find the suit, kicks some ass, and declares herself Hellcat. She has a chance to join the Avengers but Worst Avenger Moondragon convinces her not to.

I lose track of her after this but she married SON OF SATAN and then that stopped being a thing.

She became a supporting cast of She-Hulk or something later on. Sadly, she never did join the Avengers. Thanks, Worst Avenger Moondragon.

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#25495: Jan 29th 2015 at 1:55:57 PM

Yeah, former star of romance comics and then when those stopped being a thing, someone was like, "Let's make her a superhero!" And so Hellcat was born.

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#25496: Jan 29th 2015 at 1:57:06 PM

Sometimes I love Marvel.

Since this was the same story where Thor fought a WHALE MAN, yeah, I love this stupid part of Avengers history.

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#25497: Jan 29th 2015 at 2:00:02 PM

It's like if Archie v. the Punisher prompted Archie to actually don a costume and join the Avengers as Indecisive Man, and then remained as such for so long that he became recognizable as a C-list superhero.

edited 29th Jan '15 2:00:28 PM by TobiasDrake

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#25498: Jan 29th 2015 at 2:41:07 PM

Archie superficially reminds me of Jimmy Olsen so you just know he'd have seven different power sets at different points.

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higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#25499: Jan 29th 2015 at 2:42:30 PM

In the Netflix show, Patsy Walker will apparently be called Trish Walker. Since, y'know, Patsy sounds like a weird nickname while Trish is an obvious shorthand of Patricia, which is Patsy's real name.

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#25500: Jan 29th 2015 at 2:46:41 PM

Well, patsy is a kind of weird nickname anyway.

Also, huh.

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