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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Now that you mention it, Ultron using Witch to drive Banner away from his friends by forcing him to undergo an illusion that the world (represented by the police) has turned against him once more and a person he considered his friend built a superweapon specifically to put him down (something that he was used to but still clearly bothered by in the first Avengers) sounds like a really intriguing idea.
I initially assumed the Hulkbuster was a "Superman gives Batman a piece of Kryptonite" kind of situation: where Banner helped Tony create it just in case. But having it be the literal creation of Banner's worst nightmares and suspicions would really work with the "lines drawn in the sand" nature that the road to Cap 3 seems to be about to take: especially if said illusion really does have some basis in reality, or the illusion causes him to Hulk out and go on a rampage for real.
And it makes sense, as Ultron has to know that getting the Hulk out of the picture is an important part of winning - what better way than to shake his newfound sense of security and make him too paranoid to work with his allies?
This is the LEGO description btw:
Also as we expected
, Whedon says it's extremely unlikely that he'll be directing Infinity War, as he found the commitment to the last two movies to be kind of insane and detrimental to his more personal projects.
That's too bad. But not unexpected. But hey, Marvel has a good eye for talent. And on the plus side, it might result in him having more time to pay attention to Ao S. And who knows...he might write the script for infinity war, even if he doesn't end up directing the movies himself.
edited 26th Jan '15 6:48:08 AM by Swanpride
RDJ has some interesting quotes about Tony in Civil War.
Also Steve:
I guess the change refers to Cap changing from being patriotic and being pretty much pro-government to him standing up against it? I don't think that it would be that much of a change. Cap in it's core was never that patriotic, what he truly believed in was standing up to bullies, not necessarily fighting for America. And in a world in which the government is the bully, he would surely go against it. Steve doesn't believe in America, he believes in the ideals on which America was founded, which is a pretty important difference. He will always do what he perceives to be the just thing.
I don't think that's what he's talking about at all. If that were the case we've already seen him oppose SHIELD and give Nick Fury a What the Hell, Hero? moment.
I agree with this.
I'd like to see a nuanced and complex conflict where neither Stark nor Rogers is entirely right and both have great points, but after Winter Soldier, I'm not holding my breath for it. Winter Soldier was a fantastic film in many ways, but it doesn't quite give me faith in their ability to really explore a complicated issue when they depict the debate of Freedom vs. Security as an unambiguously right Captain America versus literal Nazis.
edited 26th Jan '15 8:24:35 AM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.I disagree; the movie makes its stance clear in the scene where Cap demands to throw the baby out with the bathwater, Fury disagrees, and the entire supporting cast basically says, "Fury is totally wrong," including Hill and Widow who had been his supporters up to this point. Finally, even Fury agrees and makes no effort to undermine Cap on the matter.
He shows up in Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. undermining Cap on the matter, but that's not a Captain America movie; it has different writers.
edited 26th Jan '15 8:38:15 AM by TobiasDrake
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.No, even in the beginning he was telling Fury he was uncomfortable with what SHIELD was doing, and even told Peggy that the only reason he stays with SHIELD is because she helped found it.
They've already made it clear by now that he's willing to go against the establishment if he thinks what they're doing is morally wrong.
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I'm pretty sure what they're implying is that he's going to play a little dirtier this time around. Desperate times and desperate measures and all that.
edited 26th Jan '15 8:42:26 AM by comicwriter
And it looks like Daniel Bruhl has been confirmed as Zemo
. Grain of salt, though.
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That, yes. His disapproval of S.H.I.E.L.D. was apparent from the beginning and was the crux of the Freedom v. Security argument; Cap's freedom vs. S.H.I.E.L.D.'s security. This argument was handled by revealing S.H.I.E.L.D. to be secretly filled with Nazis, thus giving Captain America the opportunity to burn both S.H.I.E.L.D. and Hydra to the ground in one fell swoop, to unanimous approval from everyone who once supported S.H.I.E.L.D. but has since come around to agree with his side of things.
That S.H.I.E.L.D. itself is meant to be unambiguously wrong is also evident in such bits as Widow and Cap's conflict. Widow represents Fury's methodology and even in the first scene where hers and Cap's conflicts, Cap comes out completely on top; Widow claiming that the explosion that allowed Batroc to escape was her fault, and Cap answering, "You're damn right." Widow and Fury's secrecy undermines Cap's mission and Batroc escapes because of it.
Post-reveal, Widow repents her involvement with S.H.I.E.L.D. to Cap while at Sam's house, equating it to her earlier work, and from that moment forward, she is fully dedicated to doing things his way.
The film isn't subtle about its handling of Cap and S.H.I.E.L.D. Cap is depicted as always correct in his mannerisms and methodology; as a character, he doesn't grow an inch in the film, because he was Right from the very beginning. Instead, it's everyone else who has to grow around him; he is the moral center that the rest of the cast spends the film coming to understand and appreciate for his ethical high ground. Cap's methodology defeats the villains and saves the day, while Fury's methodology fills his house with Nazis and gets him assassinated.
edited 26th Jan '15 8:58:58 AM by TobiasDrake
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I don't think it's that oversaturated. First Avenger had a lot of yellow in it too, as golden era 40s lighting.