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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#25176: Jan 23rd 2015 at 2:24:46 PM

616 Doctor Doom is actually really believable as Sorcerer Supreme, DOOM is a master of all intellectual pursuits.

Tony Stark and Bruce Banner gave me a head ache.

Also; isn't Morgan Freemen in the running against Ken Wantanabe for the role of the ancient one?

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#25177: Jan 23rd 2015 at 2:37:19 PM

Doom is what would result if Tony Stark and Stephen Strange performed the Fusion Dance.

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Whowho Since: May, 2012
#25178: Jan 23rd 2015 at 2:39:20 PM

Throw in the personality of Reed Richards and Magneto fusion danced and you're done.

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#25179: Jan 23rd 2015 at 2:51:14 PM

Whowho, Rhodey is spelled "Rhodey".

Also, having read that Young Allies bullshit, I'm done with everything.
So for something that's fun, and not hateful shit, picture this...

edited 23rd Jan '15 3:12:04 PM by wanderlustwarrior

Whowho Since: May, 2012
jdj42 Since: Oct, 2012
#25181: Jan 24th 2015 at 5:56:26 PM

Tony Stark Sorceror Supreme was an alternate universe.

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DrFurball Since: Jan, 2001
#25183: Jan 24th 2015 at 9:59:59 PM

I like the character, but I think AoU is juggling a load of important characters already. Then again, I would be completely okay with her appearing in GotG2 (speaking of pyschic Guardians, I'd love to see Cosmo become an Ascended Extra, but that's beside the point).

Again, this is assuming it's even true, which I of course, am skeptical about (but then again, so is the article).

edited 24th Jan '15 10:00:15 PM by DrFurball

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#25185: Jan 24th 2015 at 10:05:57 PM

Okay.

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#25186: Jan 24th 2015 at 10:22:11 PM

So when Civil War rolls around, who do you presume will be on which side? Here's a starter character list. Likely not all these guys will be in the film, but it's putting as many as have been introduced in the MCU for thoroughness.

  • Iron Man: Confirmed pro-reg, no question there. Question is how much like the comic's absolute enforcer of it he'll be.
  • Captain America: Confirmed anti-reg as well, of course.
  • Black Widow: Pro-reg in the comic. But film Widow was the one who leaked the whole SHIELD database. Does that hint she'd be anti-reg instead, having seen what too much government control can do?
  • Maria Hill: Pro-reg in the comic. Film Hill supported disbanding SHIELD, to the point of leaking SHIELD secreter base and putting Coulson's team on the run. Does this support an anti-reg perspective, by keeping SHIELD's former areas of interest unregulated, or a pro-reg in that she wants to the law to deal with secret teams like Coulson's?
  • Hulk: Not part of the conflict in the comics, because he'd end the story too soon. Will they shelve him again this time? Will he take buddy Tony's side? Or does he not trust government enforcement, seeing how Gen. Ross and co. have treated him?
  • Thor: Not directly in Civil War, implied to be shelved for Thor: Ragnarok here.
  • Hawkeye: Was dead during Civil War; his successor Kate Bishop was anti-reg. Of note is that Winter Soldier would have had a scene where Hawkeye chased Cap under SHIELD orders but deliberately loses to let him escape.
  • Nick Fury: Anti-reg in the comic, but this was WWII-vet Fury, who had seen Stalinist Russia and thus could compare it to Registration. MCU Fury is younger and authorized Project Insight, so it's arguable how supportive of registration he'd be.
  • War Machine: Pro-reg in the comic. No doubt he'd stay on Tony's side here, especially since he's the USA's Iron Patriot operator.
  • The Falcon: Anti-reg in the comic, led the Secret Avengers at one point. MCU Falcon's hinted to become Cap's second-in-command.
  • Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch: Quicksilver was anti-reg, Wanda was shelved at the time post-House of M.
  • Vision: Also anti-reg.
  • Sharon Carter: Pro-reg, but kept contact with Steve and Nick Fury, aiding them on some occasions.
  • Bucky/Winter Soldier: Anti-reg in the comic, working in secret for Nick Fury.
  • Black Panther: As Boseman put it, "Black Panther is kinda his own guy."
  • Howard the Duck: Pro-reg, but just because he needed some money. Probably won't be in the movie...

And I might have missed others. Who knows if some of the supers from Agents of SHIELD like Mockingbird will appear, or the Netflix heroes like Daredevil, Jessica Jones, and Luke Cage (all anti-reg)?

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#25187: Jan 24th 2015 at 10:35:09 PM

Regarding Fury's position on registration, while he did support Project Insight, he also tried to get it put on hold when someone he trusted (as much as he trusts anyone) said "this shit ain't right". I think he'd be chalked up as a big fat "maybe", if he's even in the picture at all instead of off-screen doing the hunt he was about to start at the end of TWS (I forget if he's been mentioned being in CW, off the top of my head).

DrFurball Since: Jan, 2001
#25188: Jan 24th 2015 at 10:38:03 PM

Yeah, I think Fury's opinion on Project Insight was summed up best when he showed Cap the helicarriers and pretty much said "Well, what do you think of THAT? ...no, really, what do you think of that?"

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#25189: Jan 25th 2015 at 1:36:06 AM

Who says that Fury will even survive Age of Ultron?

In any case, while it is difficult to say before we know what the registration entails, I have the feeling that most of the current hereos would be either against it or trying to avoid the conflict. The only one I can see going with Tony is Rhodey, Maria Hill, perhaps Bruce (though it wouldn't really fit his character) and perhaps Vision (because he is apparently basically Tony's creation)

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#25190: Jan 25th 2015 at 2:07:42 AM

Registration is probably not going to be the issue.

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#25191: Jan 25th 2015 at 6:18:27 AM

[up][up][up] And manufactured an external threat to S.H.I.E.L.D. in order to justify spying on his own organization.

Fury hired Batroc to attack the ship at the start of the film so that he could send Cap and Widow in to take down Batroc, giving Widow a secret assignment to steal sensitive data from the ship in the process, which resulted in the flash drive that kickstarted the entire plot. The only reason Cap and Widow were even able to begin their investigation in the first place was because Fury smelled a rat.

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#25192: Jan 25th 2015 at 6:41:12 AM

Actually, Howard The Duck was registered as a non-entity. He didn't exist and he didn't not-exist.

GeekCodeRed Since: Sep, 2010
#25193: Jan 25th 2015 at 6:48:53 AM

Does that mean Fury will hire Batroc to fight for his preferred side in Civil War? Because I hear Cap and Batroc's frenemy status is legendary.

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#25194: Jan 25th 2015 at 6:52:16 AM

Well Batroc's a merc so it depends on if he can afford him and something tells me Fury has lsot SHIELD's infinite resources.

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#25196: Jan 25th 2015 at 6:57:22 AM

Maybe he'll join Tony just for a chance to fight Cap again. tongue

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#25197: Jan 25th 2015 at 9:13:51 AM

Who says that Fury will even survive Age of Ultron?

It'd be rather lazy to "kill" him two movies in a row.

GeekCodeRed Since: Sep, 2010
#25198: Jan 25th 2015 at 9:24:21 AM

Also, Samuel L Jackson can only ever die once in his career, and that was in Deep Blue Sea.

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#25199: Jan 25th 2015 at 9:32:20 AM

Don't forget Revenge of the Sith.

MisterNoh Troper formerly known as Nohbody from Somewhere in Dixie Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Mu
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#25200: Jan 25th 2015 at 9:34:29 AM

^^ Revenge of the Sith says "hello". tongue

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(Though we all know that's fantasy, because SLJ going out like a bitch is INCONCEIVABLE! grin )

edited 25th Jan '15 9:34:58 AM by MisterNoh


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