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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

spashthebandragon thebandragoness from USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
thebandragoness
#25051: Jan 16th 2015 at 7:10:16 AM

[up][up][up]Can he even get stoned? I mean, he can't get drunk, so...

[up][up]Or maybe he thinks Spider-Man's girlfriend Really Gets Around?

edited 16th Jan '15 7:10:31 AM by spashthebandragon

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MousaThe14 Writer, Artist, Ignored from Northern Virginia Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Writer, Artist, Ignored
#25052: Jan 16th 2015 at 7:38:56 AM

Wait, when was it established that he can't get drunk?

I mean logically since he's, like, slightly above peak human he would have a high tolerance for alcohol but probably still could get drunk.

Which means to get stoned he would need to take in a lot of drugs to do it.

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Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#25053: Jan 16th 2015 at 7:40:48 AM

First Avenger. He tries to get drunk after... Peggy dumps him, I think?

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#25054: Jan 16th 2015 at 7:42:05 AM

Cap tries to drown his sorrows after Bucky dies but it doesn't work. I also think he can get drunk. It just takes a ridiculous amount of alcohol.

MousaThe14 Writer, Artist, Ignored from Northern Virginia Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Writer, Artist, Ignored
#25055: Jan 16th 2015 at 7:44:27 AM

Peggy never dumped him so not sure what you're remembering. I mean I'm not even sure they were actually together in any sense of the word until closer to the end.

And what Kostya said, Steve would probably have to take a lot of alcohol or the really powerful stuff to get properly drunk.

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SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#25056: Jan 16th 2015 at 7:44:31 AM

It's something to do with the speed of his metabolism, the alcohol just burns right through.

My various fanfics.
Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#25057: Jan 16th 2015 at 7:46:48 AM

It was a figure of speech, mousa. Peggy got angry with Cap after Natalie Dormer kissed him. That's all I meant.

I was wrong anyway, so whatever.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#25058: Jan 16th 2015 at 7:52:52 AM

Wait, that girl was Natalie Dormer? I knew Jenna Coleman popped up but I didn't know about her. I need to rewatch that movie.

MousaThe14 Writer, Artist, Ignored from Northern Virginia Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Writer, Artist, Ignored
#25059: Jan 16th 2015 at 7:56:35 AM

@Mukora, Sorry, I can be irritatingly pedantic about these things sometimes.

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higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#25060: Jan 16th 2015 at 8:33:51 AM

Yeah, the Army lady that kisses Cap in First Avenger is Natalie Dormer.

I honestly wish she'd show up again in Agent Carter, but that's just me.

edited 16th Jan '15 8:34:10 AM by higherbrainpattern

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#25061: Jan 16th 2015 at 8:56:04 AM

Yeah, it was Natalie Dormer. Couldn't unsee it after watching Game of Thrones, because I wish Margaery could by that upfront with me.

Anyway, when Bucky "dies", Cap tries to drink away his problems, but he's finding he can't get drunk. Peggy informs him that Dr. Erskine had suspected that that would be a side effect of the serum, the inability to pile up on toxins.

"Erskine" is in my computer's dictionary. wtf?

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#25063: Jan 16th 2015 at 10:19:23 AM

I wonder if Cap is a Virgin...I mean he was waiting for the right woman, but I doubt that he and Peggy ever had the opportunity, and I somehow doubt he got past kissing in current times.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#25064: Jan 16th 2015 at 10:21:39 AM

[up]I'd assume so unless Bucky helped him out at some point before the first movie.

[up][up]I got that impression. I wonder why they aren't just making it an Avengers movie.

edited 16th Jan '15 10:21:58 AM by Kostya

GeekCodeRed Since: Sep, 2010
#25065: Jan 16th 2015 at 10:31:59 AM

Captain America films seem to film the niche of "Avengers films that we can't call Avengers films because of someghing or other".

TFA set up the main plot of Avengers, and was connected to the other films quite strongly (Howard Stark, the Tesseract being Asgardian, "the Other Guy" being an attempt to remake the Super Soldier Serum).

TWS sets up the main plot of Avengers, and is connected to the other films quite strongly (SHIELD, Nick Fury, Black Widow, Starktech in the Helicarriers).

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#25066: Jan 16th 2015 at 10:34:53 AM

The writers are hinting at Civil War having a possible connection to Agent Carter, particularly Tony having some sort of past with Peggy.

I wonder given her closeness to Howard and Jarvis if Tony knew her as "Aunt Peggy" or something as a child.

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#25067: Jan 16th 2015 at 10:36:52 AM

I kind of want some new version of the Stark Seven to show up.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#25068: Jan 16th 2015 at 11:17:44 AM

Why "Avengers 3.8" and not "3.5"?

I nearly typed Svengers and now suddenly all the superheroes in my head are reindeer...

GeekCodeRed Since: Sep, 2010
#25069: Jan 16th 2015 at 11:36:27 AM

Superheroes are better than people~...

...okay, that sounds really racist.

Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#25070: Jan 16th 2015 at 11:40:04 AM

I know, right?

Everyone knows only reindeers are better than people.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#25071: Jan 16th 2015 at 12:05:54 PM

For some reason, I read "Svengers" as "Se7engers".

That'd be a weird movie, huh.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#25072: Jan 16th 2015 at 2:13:02 PM

[up][up][up]Superheroes ARE better than people, by definition. Super- as a prefix literally means "better than".

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#25073: Jan 16th 2015 at 2:46:29 PM

[up]X5 I think it's just supposed to be a comically arbitrary designation. Like Naked Gun 33⅓.

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#25074: Jan 16th 2015 at 3:01:35 PM

If Civil war would be called Avengers, we would expect that all avengers would be present and get more or less equal screentime (with the exception of Hawkeye because he always gets the short stick). Since it is called Civil war I don't expect them all to turn up, and I expect the main focus on Cap.

stingerbrg Since: Jun, 2009
#25075: Jan 17th 2015 at 8:17:47 AM

[up][up][up]No, that means they're better than heroes. Since the "super-" prefix is modifying "heroes" rather than "people."


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