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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#25026: Jan 15th 2015 at 3:29:59 PM

Assuming most of the Avengers characters get involved I'm guessing it will go:

  • Cap, Falcon, Widow, Hawkeye, Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver
  • Iron Man, Iron Patriot, Maria Hill, Vision, Fury, and whoever that Korean lady is supposed to be.
  • Thor, Hulk, and Ant-Man will probably just stay out of it and Black Panther is going to be the one both sides are trying to recruit.

edit: Cap might also be trying to recruit Bucky if he manages to find him.

edited 15th Jan '15 3:31:49 PM by Kostya

ultimatepheer Since: Mar, 2011
#25027: Jan 15th 2015 at 3:43:29 PM

I maintain Civil War will be a free for all prank war over which pizza topping to order.

higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#25028: Jan 15th 2015 at 4:17:08 PM

[up]The true cause of Civil War [lol]

Also, I find it funny as hell that Black Widow's first appearance in the MCU was in Iron Man 2, and now she's been in two Avengers and two Captain America movies. (Granted, Civil War is also going to have Iron Man in it).

edited 15th Jan '15 4:38:31 PM by higherbrainpattern

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#25029: Jan 15th 2015 at 4:29:39 PM

She's had a very odd career trajectory through the MCU.

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#25030: Jan 15th 2015 at 6:46:25 PM

[up][up][up][up]

I'd say Bucky is a lock for being in Civil War simply because of the ending of The Winter Soldier. I'd also probably put the Vision on the same side as Scarlet Witch/Quicksilver, assuming he appears at all. Assuming they go with the comics origin and have Ultron create the Vision (and I've heard conflicting reports on this, but the sources I'm most familiar with point towards an Ultron origin), then he will have a much stronger bond with the Maximoffs then he will with the other Avengers.

Otherwise your breakdown is probably about as accurate as you can get.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#25031: Jan 15th 2015 at 7:26:22 PM

Ordinarily I'd agree but I think Vision will be based on the Jarvis AI since they share a VA. That might me him more loyal to Tony. It also gives both sides six people. I'm guessing they'd try to make them equal.

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Role Model
#25032: Jan 15th 2015 at 8:33:34 PM

Still makes it feel like Cap 3: In Name Only.

comicwriter Since: Sep, 2011
#25033: Jan 15th 2015 at 8:49:08 PM

[up][up][up]It's confirmed he's built (or at least programmed) by Banner and Stark.

edited 15th Jan '15 8:49:20 PM by comicwriter

Khfan429 Since: Aug, 2009
#25034: Jan 15th 2015 at 9:01:26 PM

Assuming no casualties (and I have to say, I really don't like Rhodey's odds for surviving Ao U right about now), the only things I would say for certain are:

  • Captain America will be backed up by Falcon, Quicksilver, and Scarlet Witch.

  • Iron Man will have on his side the Hulk (gotta keep the Science Bros together, after all), Vision, and War Machine/Iron Patriot.

  • Thor will be absent as he'll be off dealing with Ragnarok.

I can't really speak to Ant-Man until his movie comes out, and I'm having a really hard time with Black Widow and Hawkeye.

Buuuuuuuuut if I had to pick... I'd put Hawkeye on Cap's side for the sake of having the whole Kooky Quartet, and Black Widow on Stark's side.

Really, considering they're both SHIELD Agents, it's kind of hard for me not to put them both on Stark's side. Superhuman regulation seems like something they'd both logically be for. And yeah, I know Black Widow is now friendly with Cap, but I think she has enough independence that she'd side against him if she thought he was wrong. Adds another layer of personal drama to the whole thing.

Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#25035: Jan 15th 2015 at 9:12:09 PM

Why Rhodey, specifically?

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
Khfan429 Since: Aug, 2009
#25036: Jan 15th 2015 at 9:15:46 PM

Combination of things. We know most of the main Avengers are safe due to contractual obligations/confirmations from other sources that they'll be in future movies, and killing off the newcomers seems like a waste. Rhodey does not have the same guaranteed contractual immunity.

In addition, despite the fact that we know he's in the film, very little has been said about his role or how he'll factor into the fight, which doesn't bode well at all. Add in the fact that we already know his best friend will be consumed by guilt enough to do a 180 on his government stance... and things do not look good for Colonel James Rhodes.

edited 15th Jan '15 9:16:15 PM by Khfan429

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#25037: Jan 15th 2015 at 9:27:56 PM

If Marvel does this Black Dude Dies First BS I will flip shit. We barely have any minority heroes as is. Don't fucking kill the few we've got. I'd prefer it if nobody died.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#25038: Jan 15th 2015 at 9:32:02 PM

Yeah Marvel, don't Trip over yourselves now.

Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#25039: Jan 15th 2015 at 9:33:04 PM

God damn it.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
Canid117 Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#25040: Jan 15th 2015 at 10:08:22 PM

Lets not get all worked up over nothing. We don't even know if anyone is going to die at all.

"War without fire is like sausages without mustard." - Jean Juvénal des Ursins
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#25042: Jan 15th 2015 at 10:34:24 PM

The movie ends with Cap convincing the other Avengers to become bikers. Civil War happens because Tony refuses to ride anything but a convertible.

DrFurball Since: Jan, 2001
#25043: Jan 15th 2015 at 10:45:29 PM

[up] Biker Avengers? It's "Marvel Universe Live!" all over again!

stingerbrg Since: Jun, 2009
#25044: Jan 15th 2015 at 10:48:19 PM

Perhaps they can play poker on their motorbikes.

Eagal Since: Apr, 2012
#25045: Jan 16th 2015 at 12:09:08 AM

The Civil War is the direct result of Tony and Steve disagreeing on what's better to watch while really really stoned: Spongebob or Teletubbies.wild mass guess

Swanpride Since: Jun, 2013
#25046: Jan 16th 2015 at 12:24:34 AM

Well, I look forward to more movies in which multiple Avengers are present. The more the universe interconnect, the better.

spashthebandragon thebandragoness from USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#25048: Jan 16th 2015 at 6:55:28 AM

I'm sorry, I take offense to the idea of Steve Rogers being stoned.

My various fanfics.
MousaThe14 Writer, Artist, Ignored from Northern Virginia Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Writer, Artist, Ignored
#25049: Jan 16th 2015 at 6:58:01 AM

Steve? Stoned? He doesn't seem the type. He's so..... Uptight. And gives off an aura of purity that is actually somewhat disturbing. He probably thinks Mary Jane is just a girl a lot of people are friends with.

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GeekCodeRed Since: Sep, 2010
#25050: Jan 16th 2015 at 6:58:35 AM

Yeah, he doesn't live in biblical times!

-rimshot-


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