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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#144601: Jul 22nd 2022 at 1:28:01 PM

I wonder if they're going to make Moon Girl an adaptational mutant to follow in MCU Kamala's footstep since they're the only two non-royal Inhumans that most people care about but they already swapped Kamala being Inhuman out for her being a mutant?

uncertanSearcher It's always Season of the Witch from Germany Since: Oct, 2017
It's always Season of the Witch
#144602: Jul 22nd 2022 at 1:28:36 PM

[up][up][up]With Doc Ock and Scorpion as villains and multiple Spidey outfits confirmed I have no idea how this will not end up as a massive continuity snarl.

Edited by uncertanSearcher on Jul 22nd 2022 at 10:32:41 AM

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#144603: Jul 22nd 2022 at 1:29:30 PM

Just took a look at that Moon Girl clip, and the animation/comedy style reminds me a little too much of Teen Titans Go!.

Then again, I haven't exactly followed any cartoon stuff since 2013, so maybe I'm biased.

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MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#144604: Jul 22nd 2022 at 1:31:14 PM

disregard

Edited by MatthewWayne on Jul 22nd 2022 at 1:31:30 AM

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#144605: Jul 22nd 2022 at 1:33:05 PM

but where's squirrel girl!?

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#144606: Jul 22nd 2022 at 1:33:16 PM

Moon Girl’s connection to the Inhumans is very sparse and she even spends the first arc of her run trying to not activate her Terrigenesis, so I wouldn’t be surprised if they excise her connection in the cartoon.

I think the cartoon looks great. It sounds like Lunella has a much stronger supporting cast to bounce off than she did in the comic.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Jul 22nd 2022 at 1:45:06 AM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#144607: Jul 22nd 2022 at 1:35:10 PM

You can excise her inhuman connection without making her a mutant because her actual superpowers are super downplayed in her book

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#144608: Jul 22nd 2022 at 1:39:38 PM

What’s ironic about her attempts to avoid Terrigenesis is that Lunella’s power turns out to be swapping minds with Devil Dinosaur on occasion. Meaning if he had never come from the past, her efforts to avoid the gas cloud would be needless because her power would be unusable.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Jul 22nd 2022 at 1:41:45 AM

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#144609: Jul 22nd 2022 at 1:42:31 PM

Terrigenesis is so unimportant to Lunella that really she could've invented a device that only worked on Devil Dinosaur and it would change almost nothing. But it does seem like they will want to shore up the Mutants at this point and this would be one way of doing so.

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#144610: Jul 22nd 2022 at 1:44:53 PM

I still don't get why everyone is so fixated on Inhumans in the MCU. Can't we let that die a spluttering, bloody death? The only reason they existed to begin with was that Marvel lost the X-Men to Fox so they wanted something else they could write mutant stories about.

Edited by Fighteer on Jul 22nd 2022 at 4:45:25 AM

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Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#144611: Jul 22nd 2022 at 1:47:37 PM

I think the worry is less "we really love the inhumans" but "X-Men treats everyone who isn't the ~ten main characters horribly". If they want to make the X-gene a general mass-empowering thingy that's fine, but don't stick Kamala on Krakoa lol

Edited by Synchronicity on Jul 22nd 2022 at 3:47:49 AM

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#144612: Jul 22nd 2022 at 1:47:41 PM

Yeah, it confuses me too. Where did all this Inhumans love come from? It feels like the Star Wars Prequel Trilogy, but with even less reasons to like it...

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dcutter2 Since: Sep, 2013
#144613: Jul 22nd 2022 at 1:51:20 PM

I'm not seeing any outpouring of love for Inhumans in the thread just speculation on how close or not the comics they'll hew to it. I know some people don't care and that's fair, but some people do care and that's perfectly reasonable as well.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#144614: Jul 22nd 2022 at 1:52:16 PM

Most people don't care for the Nuhumans but there are people who want the Royal Family to stick around

Edited by slimcoder on Jul 22nd 2022 at 1:52:28 AM

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#144615: Jul 22nd 2022 at 1:52:43 PM

Its not love,its mockery of a dead horse

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uncertanSearcher It's always Season of the Witch from Germany Since: Oct, 2017
It's always Season of the Witch
#144616: Jul 22nd 2022 at 1:53:38 PM

So how would people feel if the Royal Family where also changed into mutants?

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#144617: Jul 22nd 2022 at 1:54:12 PM

Looks like we got a still of the Zombies series. Seems we've got the Red Guardian and that dude whose name I've already forgotten from Shang-Chi involved in this show.

Also, what the hell is Jimmy Woo wearing???

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#144618: Jul 22nd 2022 at 1:55:19 PM

... what Inhuman love would that be? All someone said was "I wonder if this character will also be a mutant in the MCU." It's not like it was said it any particular offense to the change actually happening.

In situations like this, you often find that people jump to defense when people jump to offense. No small part of why people defend the Inhumans may well be because people are so quick to pre-emptively condemn them.

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#144619: Jul 22nd 2022 at 1:57:21 PM

I've seen so many people online complain about the Inhumans supposedly getting shafted online. I'm pretty neutral on the IP overall, but it just surprises me that so many people wanted them back again. Guess Black Bolt's recent reappearance didn't help with that.

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Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#144620: Jul 22nd 2022 at 1:58:49 PM

I still don't get why everyone is so fixated on Inhumans in the MCU. Can't we let that die a spluttering, bloody death? The only reason they existed to begin with was that Marvel lost the X-Men to Fox so they wanted something else they could write mutant stories about.

Just want to slightly correct this since that's a misconception: no, that's not the only reason they exist. They existed long before Ike Permulter decided to use them as a Suspiciously Similar Substitute for the Mutants and were introduced as a supporting cast for Fantastic Four as far as the Kirby era. There is more to them than being X-Men Nite.

Personally I do not care that much for Inhumans, but if I had to guess, it's that people are worried that, now that Marvel got the X-Men back, they might go overboard with fixing and try to slaughter the Inhuman and all the development related to them - which is a bit excessive. They still have potential as their own thing, even if I agree they don't need their own tv show or movie.

Edited by Theokal3 on Jul 22nd 2022 at 10:59:43 AM

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#144621: Jul 22nd 2022 at 2:05:04 PM

Well, there was an outpouring of... vehement disapproval... over Kamala Khan not being portrayed as an Inhuman in her series. So...

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dcutter2 Since: Sep, 2013
#144622: Jul 22nd 2022 at 2:06:57 PM

[up] We've gone through that a lot. You swore off talking about it.

It's not just because of the change from Inhuman to mutant. It's how they handled it in the show.

Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#144623: Jul 22nd 2022 at 2:07:25 PM

[up][up]I think it's a mix of They Changed It, Now It Sucks! and the fact what they gave us instead of the Inhuman origin being convoluted and not very coherent - in contrast to her very straighforward simple origin in the comic. Personally i'm not fond of her new origin but I don't really care about her no longer being an Inhuman.

But yeah, we agreed to drop it, so i'll stop there.

Edited by Theokal3 on Jul 22nd 2022 at 11:08:31 AM

Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#144624: Jul 22nd 2022 at 2:08:58 PM

It's not a love for Inhumans, it's a hate for how X-men treats every character who isn't wolverine. You can't look at how storm got treated in the movies and tell me that a character would be better as a mutant.

It's way better to be a big fish in a small pond than the other way around.

Edited by Joshbones on Jul 22nd 2022 at 2:09:17 AM

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#144625: Jul 22nd 2022 at 2:10:13 PM

Well, they haven't even hinted at Wolverine existing yet, so I have hope.

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