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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
I am excited about seeing Namor and since it has the same directing crew I think it will be a good movie. Still, I will admit that it somewhat upsetting that we won't see Bosman.
Sincerely S Awatching.Does that mean in Endgame Steve effectively had Thor's level of durabilitt and strength?
He should have, but it's complicated.
Traditionally, the way Mjolnir works in the comics is that if you are Worthy, then lifting the hammer causes you to be struck by a bolt of lightning which immediately bestows all of Thor's powers and some cool Asgardian Warrior regalia upon you. This has resulted in various Thor versions of characters. Here's Black Widow wielding the power of Thor.
The hammer just does that. BOOM, powers and costume.
Except. When it doesn't? Steve Rogers being Worthy has been a long-established thing in the comics, and there have been multiple dramatic HOLY SHIT moments where he picks up Mjolnir at the eleventh hour and goes to town. It always comes with a massive power boost that lets him change the tide of a losing battle, and he can blast lightning and shit from it as well. It's clear that he does receive the power of Thor when he lifts Mjolnir.
But for some reason, he never gets a lightning bolt makeover. Despite lifting the hammer many times, I'm pretty sure we have never once gotten a Thor variant costume for Captain America. It always leaves his outfit as-is, even though it costume-changes everybody else that successfully lifts it.
In the MCU, it's much the same. Lifting Mjolnir gave both Jane and, in the first movie, Thor himself a free cosmetic upgrade. But it left Steve's clothes alone. For some reason.
Edited by TobiasDrake on Jul 18th 2022 at 11:27:26 AM
My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.Clearly, Mjölnir just like's Steve's duds.
Notably, even when he was in the identity of The Captain (the black costume that was eventually given to John Walker for the US Agent identity), he never got any fancy Thor suit.
I know because I have a comic where he lifted the hammer while in that costume.
One Strip! One Strip!You fools!
The helmet / Cowl of Cap's costume already has wings.
Mjölnir sees that Steve has everything he needs already!
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Of course, there's still the argument about whether the hammer actually counted Vision as worthy since he's a machine.
I personally think he is, since Stan Lee tried lifting the hammer with a truck in Thor 1 and it didn't work.
Edited by lbssb on Jul 18th 2022 at 12:32:14 PM
Disney100 Marathon | DreamWorks MarathonIn Love and Thunder, the denizens of New Asgard were able to excavate the ground that the hammer shards fell onto, and move that instead of moving the hammer. But Stan Lee's truck couldn't budge it. So Steve and Tony's elevator theory remains unproven and yet has also not been disproven. Or, rather, it has been simultaneously proven and disproven, leaving the truth ambiguous.
It's a shame Vision didn't get a lightning bolt makeover or shoot lightning out of the hammer. That would rather definitively answer the question. An elevator wouldn't be able to tap into the hammer's powers; It would only be able to swing and throw the hammer as a blunt instrument.
If Vision is an elevator, then he does not possess the power of Thor when he lifts Mjolnir. Therefore, if Vision possesses the power of Thor, then he is not an elevator.
Does anyone remember if Vision's done the "summon Mjolnir back to hand" thing?
Edited by TobiasDrake on Jul 18th 2022 at 2:45:11 AM
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Did they say that they moved the ground it was on? I was under the assumption that they built the display case around where it was already laying.
Edited by lbssb on Jul 18th 2022 at 2:56:14 AM
Disney100 Marathon | DreamWorks MarathonI don't believe he has.
He can pic it up, but I don't believe he ever used the lightning power like Thor did either.
One Strip! One Strip!Ya know its a weird thought, despite being introduced in the 2nd Avengers movie Avengers adaptations still make little use of Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver.
Even Avengers Assemble which was an MCU shill-piece did not ever use Pietro and Wanda, despite having Ultron use his movie face, bringing in Vision with no introduction, and retooling Ant-Men who previously appeared in the show to be exactly like his movie shelf down to having shot for shot recreations of the backyard training scenes from the Ant-Man movie.
Hilarious that the comics made the point of retconning them to not be Mutants so adaptations can have a background for them without Magneto but they still don't do anything with the characters.
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I'd wager that's the actual answer.
Edited by lbssb on Jul 18th 2022 at 4:48:55 AM
Disney100 Marathon | DreamWorks MarathonThe Mjolnir always seems to be semi-sentient (or fully sentient as the comics recently tackled) so its choices being inconsistent (outfit for some and not for others) seem like a very deliberate judgement call.
"All you Fascists bound to lose."Hey, I have a question. When, exactly, did Carol officially become Captain Marvel in the MCU?
By the time of Ms. Marvel, she's publicly known as Captain Marvel. But I don't remember anyone calling her that before Ms. Marvel. Fury just knew her as Carol "Avenger" Danvers.
It's explained in Ms. Marvel that the public has the full scoop on the events of Infinity War and Endgame courtesy of Scott Lang's podcast, so. Like. Did Scott come up with the name Captain Marvel? Is that just a name he invented because nobody every stopped to explain to him who this random interstellar ship-smashing woman is?
Edited by TobiasDrake on Jul 18th 2022 at 9:01:31 AM
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And I suppose how good of a hook it has.
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