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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#143976: Jul 12th 2022 at 6:43:06 AM

[up][up][up] Have you ever asked the origin of the family name?

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#143978: Jul 12th 2022 at 10:55:01 AM

But Doctor Doom isn't an animal...

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#143979: Jul 12th 2022 at 11:00:29 AM

I have not, but the name "Doom" comes from the Anglo-Saxon word "dun", which means hill. It described people living on a downward slope. Similar names include Downe, Dounne, or Downer.

This is distinctly separate from the word "doom", which evolved from the Olde English "domen", which means to pass judgment.

In-universe, it really is pure coincidence that Dr. Downwards Slope's name happens to be a homonym for dire judgment. It shouldn't by itself be taken as indicative of anything, any moreso than Tony "Unyielding Perfection" Stark should be worshipped as a flawless icon of a man.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Jul 12th 2022 at 11:08:52 AM

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Avenger09 Since: May, 2014
#143980: Jul 12th 2022 at 11:10:17 AM

My personal hope is his MCU iteration takes after his portrayal here.

Still eloquent and grandiose and a genuine threat (because if anyone can pull off being that kind of straight villain, its Doom) but slightly self-aware and witty.

Edited by Avenger09 on Jul 12th 2022 at 7:25:46 PM

SAwatching from south africa Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#143981: Jul 12th 2022 at 11:39:27 AM

I think that Dr. Doom could work well in this banter-rich universe. Witty villains are very good, which I think is why Loki lasts so long as a villain.

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#143982: Jul 12th 2022 at 11:53:55 AM

Just gotta make sure he's written well. People like it when Doom has an eloquent Shakespearean prose to his hammy scenery-chewing. And lo, it shall be that the Avengers meet their fate, and all the world shall belong to DOOM!

Remember that time Bendis tried to write Doom, and he had the guy just flat-out call Carol Danvers a fat cow? Fans rioted.

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#143983: Jul 12th 2022 at 11:57:52 AM

It’s a shame that Bendis doesn’t have more than one style of writing

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RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#143984: Jul 12th 2022 at 11:59:55 AM

Was it a Doombot?

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dcutter2 Since: Sep, 2013
#143985: Jul 12th 2022 at 12:02:07 PM

It's always A Doombot. Eventually.

They could do a cool what if story. Where it turns out there is no real Doom at all.

Edited by dcutter2 on Jul 12th 2022 at 8:02:17 PM

uncertanSearcher It's always Season of the Witch from Germany Since: Oct, 2017
It's always Season of the Witch
#143986: Jul 12th 2022 at 12:03:19 PM

It's always A Doombot. Eventually.
Except when Squirrel Girl is involved.

Edited by uncertanSearcher on Jul 12th 2022 at 9:10:44 PM

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#143987: Jul 12th 2022 at 12:07:12 PM

Oh, like good ol' Willy Shakes wouldn't have a character call someone a "fat cow".

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Jul 12th 2022 at 12:07:20 PM

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#143988: Jul 12th 2022 at 12:16:01 PM

What If...Groot and Doctor Doom merged into one being?

"I...AM...DOOOOOOOOOOOM!"

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
HasturHasturHastur from Wheah the fahkin baby wheel is, Jay Since: Nov, 2010
#143989: Jul 12th 2022 at 12:18:59 PM

I do wonder if Jesus Castro (who will always be my Doom fancast) could sufficiently pull off Doom's trademark hammy Shakespearean prose.

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#143990: Jul 12th 2022 at 12:43:16 PM

[up][up][up]No, but he'd at least try to dress it up a little.

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#143991: Jul 12th 2022 at 12:44:37 PM

If John Krasinski comes back for the 199999 Reednote , then Rainn Wilson should play Doom.

Edited by lbssb on Jul 12th 2022 at 12:44:57 PM

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#143992: Jul 12th 2022 at 12:49:45 PM

I can't help but wonder if giving the MCU a better number would have made the film teams more willing to accept it. 616 rolls off the tongue, but Earth-1999999 sucks.

"In the vast multiverse, every universe is known by a designation. We call your universe one nine nine nine nine nine nine nine nine." "You have to listen to me. You're all in danger. The Wanda of Earth 999999919999 is going to come here and attack you." "It's fine, we're safe here. We're more interested in you, Dr. Strange of Earth ninety nine nines of nine nines nining nines."

It's a completely obnoxious number to try and use in dialogue.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#143993: Jul 12th 2022 at 12:50:32 PM

[up][up][up] Yeah there is a distinction between being witty and just being straightforwardly vulgar.

Ya gotta be creative with your burns.

Edited by slimcoder on Jul 12th 2022 at 12:50:49 PM

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#143994: Jul 12th 2022 at 12:56:39 PM

[up][up]I think I suggested this on another thread/page way back, but even just calling the MCU "199" would've been good for brevity.

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#143995: Jul 12th 2022 at 1:00:37 PM

Thor was another character that talked like that, but that ship's sailed. Shame. Imagine long-winded Thor facing off with Doom.

  • Thor: Thine wicked plots end now, foul villain! Thou conspirest with mine brother most foul, but to no vile ends shall this wicked plot avail you!
  • Doom: A misunderstanding most grave hast been committed upon Doom. In Latveria didst your brother seek refuge, and indeed a wicked plan Doom did hatch. But t'is no conspiracy, simpleton. A prisoner in Doom's arcane cells, is where your treacherous brother may now be found.
  • Thor: Monster! Unhand mine brother and stand down from your plots most foul! Treacherous though he may be, mine brother he remains!
  • Doom: Killed thirty-seven Latverian subjects overnight, he did.
  • Thor: ...lo, adopted he be.
  • Doom: Foul cur! Disrespect the sanctity of family at thine own peril! Take thine tongue so tipped with acid and BEGONE FROM CASTLE DOOM, lest it be cut from your very mouth!
  • Thor: Hark, when didst I become yon bad guy here?

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dcutter2 Since: Sep, 2013
#143996: Jul 12th 2022 at 1:03:52 PM

I'm sad they've never tried to reference "I say thee nay!" In the films yet.

Thor did start a little more archaic though.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#143997: Jul 12th 2022 at 1:05:56 PM

[up]And now it's time for the Thor: Smack Talker link.

Because yeah, it's a shame we missed out on Shakesperean Thor.

I like this current Thor, but man, we missed some good classy shit talking out of him.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#143998: Jul 12th 2022 at 1:08:05 PM

Knowing Marvel humor we'd prolly devote 5 minutes to characters making fun of and asking why Doom is talking like that

Edited by slimcoder on Jul 12th 2022 at 1:13:40 AM

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#143999: Jul 12th 2022 at 1:12:54 PM

[up]Or doom will monologue and someone will smack him in a "villainy talk silly, lol"

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#144000: Jul 12th 2022 at 1:17:14 PM

They already used a perfect response from Tony.

"Hey, Shakespeare in the Park! Dost mother know you weareth her drapes?"

The MCU has a couple of characters irreverent enough to say something like this to Doom's face right now, but I'm not sure what they would say without just rehashing this joke.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Jul 12th 2022 at 1:18:54 AM

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