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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#143951: Jul 11th 2022 at 5:25:09 PM

I'm curious what Marvel project Quentin Tarantino would do if he ever wanted to get involved. I read he wanted to make a Luke Cage adaptation at some point, but it never went anywhere.

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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#143952: Jul 11th 2022 at 5:35:40 PM

I'd guess Luke Cage, Iron Fist or Shang-Chi would operate the closest along his vibe.

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HasturHasturHastur from Wheah the fahkin baby wheel is, Jay Since: Nov, 2010
#143953: Jul 11th 2022 at 5:40:07 PM

White Tiger? I do want to see Hector Ayala get his due.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#143954: Jul 11th 2022 at 8:01:26 PM

The very first Marvel character I think of when I think Tarantino is Blade.

I definitely wouldn't want a Tarantino Luke Cage film.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jul 11th 2022 at 8:01:36 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#143955: Jul 11th 2022 at 8:02:28 PM

Oh man I can already hear the 10 million times they say the n-word.

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HasturHasturHastur from Wheah the fahkin baby wheel is, Jay Since: Nov, 2010
#143956: Jul 11th 2022 at 8:19:58 PM

Do a shot every time someone's feet are put in focus and you'll get alcohol poisoning.

despoa Since: Aug, 2012
#143957: Jul 11th 2022 at 8:51:18 PM

Weren't there feet shots in The Avengers?

uncertanSearcher It's always Season of the Witch from Germany Since: Oct, 2017
It's always Season of the Witch
#143958: Jul 11th 2022 at 10:14:19 PM

Regarding good upcoming villains: Its only a question of time until the MCU finally brings in Doctor Doom. Probably the villain with the most potential for a longrunning role. Also really about time for a film adaptation to finally get him right.

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#143959: Jul 11th 2022 at 10:23:55 PM

Indeed. I seriously think it's about time someone asks why anyone would trust a guy whose last name is Doom.

I'm only half-joking. Yes Doug Walker sucks, but I agree with him that it's really strange that nobody once lampshaded Victor's last name in the previous Fantastic Four films.

That being said, should the Fantastic Four movie even center on Doom? He's already had two failed outings, maybe we should take a look at a lesser-known FF baddie before tackling him once more.

Edited by MatthewWayne on Jul 11th 2022 at 10:24:35 AM

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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#143960: Jul 11th 2022 at 10:29:44 PM

During the Brazilian Dictatorship, one of the highest ranking members of the Dictatorship's upper eschelonds was called General Kruel, who has been found guilty of (among others) mass torture, mass murder, enslavement and amerindian genocide. He retired peacefully and died of old age.

Sometimes life is a funny thing.

Edited by Gaon on Jul 11th 2022 at 10:30:27 AM

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uncertanSearcher It's always Season of the Witch from Germany Since: Oct, 2017
It's always Season of the Witch
#143961: Jul 11th 2022 at 10:31:48 PM

While I think you could easily intoduce Doom in the Fantastic Four movie, he really should not be the main villain. Build him up as a greater scope villain whose machinations affect all kinds of things in various stories without him being the direct antagonist.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#143962: Jul 11th 2022 at 10:37:05 PM

This line from Guardians of the Galaxy is probably my favorite Doom quote

"'King of Space.' 'Master of the Sun.' You claim such vast dominions. Is it to balance your small souls? Could I not lay claim to the light and the void, if I wished it? Have I not earned such titles? I, who have mastered all arts, all sciences, all secrets? Whose technology and magic cross the stars as easily as they scramble an alpha telepath's mind? Who would dare to say I have not earned the right? Yet I am king of only a simple nation. On a simple planet. A beloved garden tended by iron hands. And the only title I have ever claimed... is Doctor."

Edited by slimcoder on Jul 11th 2022 at 10:37:48 AM

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#143963: Jul 11th 2022 at 10:38:29 PM

My favorite idea with Doom is that he's introduced in his own movie. Just adapt Doom's backstory almost 1:1, ending with him as king of Latveria.

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#143964: Jul 11th 2022 at 10:39:27 PM

Considering the Doombots, Doom could be the man behind himself even.

Though I wonder if they're gonna say Sokovia borders Latveria and he acquired some Ultron drones for his bots. tongue

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#143965: Jul 11th 2022 at 10:40:46 PM

I generally favour introducing Doom in a Disney+ series chronicling his rise to power. Then you can just use him in anything else.

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#143966: Jul 11th 2022 at 10:46:45 PM

The phrasing of that made me imagine a Mockumentary series (akin to how WandaVision was initially a pastiche of old sitcoms), and I would absolutely be on board.

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#143967: Jul 11th 2022 at 10:50:19 PM

[up][up][up]There's a pretty good Civil War-era theory that Latveria is going to be a rebuilt and renamed Sokovia, and the Doombots will be reverse-engineered from Ultron drones.

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#143968: Jul 11th 2022 at 11:02:51 PM

[up][up] A Intrepid Reporter documentary crew goes to investigate what is going down in the secretive dictatorship of Latveria. They get kidnapped and delivered to Doom, who decides to give them a personal view of what being DOOM is.

Imagine just a random scene where a doombot mentions Reed Richards and Doom just turns around saying "RICHA—" as his eyes and fists start to glow with energy before there's an obvious cut editing out the aftermath and we see Doom perfectly calm saying "I don't know who that is." as the camera tries to ignore the smoking crater where the Doombot used to be and the documentary narrator comments "As usual, Doom kept a steely calm no matter the situation."

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#143969: Jul 12th 2022 at 12:56:44 AM

During the Brazilian Dictatorship, one of the highest ranking members of the Dictatorship's upper eschelonds was called General Kruel, who has been found guilty of (among others) mass torture, mass murder, enslavement and amerindian genocide.

Ah, I'd wondered what his backstory was before he started trying to kill Donkey Kong.

RedHunter543 Crimson Paladin Since: Jul, 2016 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
Crimson Paladin
#143971: Jul 12th 2022 at 2:23:13 AM

I was thinking of this personally.

[up][up][up] That is the framing device of Books of Doom where a lady interviews Doom in his castle of Latveria and he tells her his backstory.

Then it's revealed he had no intention of letting her leave, and that the Doom she was talking to was a Doombot.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Jul 12th 2022 at 5:24:52 AM

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HasturHasturHastur from Wheah the fahkin baby wheel is, Jay Since: Nov, 2010
#143972: Jul 12th 2022 at 4:55:04 AM

I still like my idea that Richards actually kinda was an asshole to Doom, but realized where he went wrong and changed for the better as a person, while Doom, despite having literally everything he could ever want and being able to do whatever he sets his mind to, still won't let go of his vendetta against him. Whenever he does anything remotely virtuous, it's solely to upstage Richards, and everyone involved thinks it's kinda sad, but he just won't drop it.

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#143973: Jul 12th 2022 at 5:23:49 AM

Indeed. I seriously think it's about time someone asks why anyone would trust a guy whose last name is Doom.

I used to have a colleague named Amy Doom. She was pretty cool. Ran her department well.

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Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#143974: Jul 12th 2022 at 5:38:58 AM

Yeah, in the context of fiction it's easy to see it as a red flag, but in real life people don't choose their names and sometimes a name can mean something completely different depending on the language or context (apparently "Ivan the Terrible" wasn't actually a Red Baron title, "Terrible" just meant something akin to "Magnificent" at the time).

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#143975: Jul 12th 2022 at 6:33:25 AM

White Tiger? I do want to see Hector Ayala get his due.

They might give a White Tiger film to a Hispanic director.

It might not necessarily be Hector as White Tiger either or not just him.


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