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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

DarthNoxIsCool Since: Jun, 2022
#143326: Jun 26th 2022 at 12:24:33 PM

[up]*3. I honestly prefer a thousand times that they hire a younger actor, instead use CGI to pretend that a 40-year-old character is 18 years old.

Just because de-aged is common doesn't mean they have to use it all the time.

Edited by DarthNoxIsCool on Jun 26th 2022 at 12:26:03 PM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#143327: Jun 26th 2022 at 9:04:44 PM

It's kind of funny how "grounded" the MCU Nova Corps is compared to the comics. For those who don't know the comics, the comics Nova Corps is Marvel's equivalent of the Green Lanterns.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#143328: Jun 26th 2022 at 9:21:38 PM

Yeah the Nova Corps got prolly the biggest nerf in the MCU so there wouldn't be super-powered space cops running around and solving the main characters problems. [lol]

Edited by slimcoder on Jun 26th 2022 at 10:02:23 AM

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#143329: Jun 26th 2022 at 9:38:12 PM

Though the Nova Corps being superpowered in the comics didn't make them any less useless, tbf.

Then again, that's partly because the overall threat level in the comics verse is just that high.

Edited by M84 on Jun 27th 2022 at 12:39:46 AM

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Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#143330: Jun 26th 2022 at 9:48:02 PM

I dunno. Drax and Gamora got hit by the nerf bat pretty hard.

Edited by Zeromaeus on Jun 26th 2022 at 12:48:46 PM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#143331: Jun 26th 2022 at 10:04:32 PM

True but at least they still have some degree of their recognizable abilities. Sure Drax has none of the intelligence or skills he displayed in the source material but he's...... somewhat strong I guess and he has his knives.

The Nova Corps meanwhile are completely powerless and their actual boss the Worldmind hasn't been mentioned at the moment.

Edited by slimcoder on Jun 26th 2022 at 10:04:58 AM

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uncertanSearcher It's always Season of the Witch from Germany Since: Oct, 2017
It's always Season of the Witch
#143332: Jun 26th 2022 at 10:13:27 PM

If the proper Nova be it Richard Rider or Sam Alexander gets introduced eventually he will probably be the only one with the full Nova Force powers.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#143333: Jun 27th 2022 at 12:22:07 PM

Thinking of Black Panther, I'm reminded of T'Challa's like he said to Killermonger after he said he could help all black people

"I am not king of all people, I am king of Wakanda"

Knowing how smart he is, T'Challa probably realizes there's a lot of issues with a powerful country enforcing itself on the rest of the world.

Look at the British Empire and the US for a couple examples of how bad that can go.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#143334: Jun 27th 2022 at 12:27:55 PM

I just finished finally reading Fantastic Four Life Story, wherein T’Challa did decide to help All of Africa by paying off all their debts with the world bank

This mostly worked narratively because we never got any information on how the African Alliance T’Challa was building worked so maybe Wakanda dominated the continent with its wealth and advanced technology or maybe he organized something more egalitarian

Also the vibranium T’Challa gave to World Bank Jerk Klaw was later loaned to Latveria as a business loan to create a world conquering army so it kind of backfired

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MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#143335: Jun 27th 2022 at 1:51:00 PM

[up] Well that loan was certainly doomed.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#143336: Jun 27th 2022 at 3:30:51 PM

[up][up] It’s an interesting thing I noticed writers really want to engage in Wakanda exceptionalism without necessarily engaging in the issues.

Admitably it leads to a weird thing where T’Challa is simultaneously criticized for being a dictator but also criticized for not doing more to help the people of the world.

It’s kind of a “well which is it?” scenario.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#143337: Jun 27th 2022 at 3:32:37 PM

It's whichever one creates the most drama in the moment.

And that's the driving force of every decision when it comes to comics.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#143338: Jun 27th 2022 at 3:40:40 PM

T’Challa wasn’t one of the main characters or antagonists so he could do world changing stuff benevolently without it blowing up or being a dick move

If it were Black Panther Life Story you can bet one of the nations he tried to alliance would be secretly run by Killmonger as a plot to destroy him or T’Challa would discover that random Wakandans were secretly going to diplomatic meetings specifically to punch diplomats or T’Challa would destroy the world economy like the time he did do that

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#143339: Jun 27th 2022 at 5:06:10 PM

Just randomly started thinking about how much I want MODOK and a real take on AIM in the MCU. Or, even if not MODOK, at least Monica Rappaccini. Gimme the Scientist Supreme vs the Sorcerer Supreme.

lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
The sleepiest good boi
#143340: Jun 27th 2022 at 5:09:21 PM

There's rumors Bill Murray's role in Quantumania is MODOK.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#143341: Jun 27th 2022 at 5:19:28 PM

Well, that's a downer if true - and a complete 180 for me. Bill Murray is neither the kind of actor I'd want to see play MODOK, nor Ant-Man the movie I'd prefer to see him in (my big not-gonna-happen wish is The Marvels, but I'll take Ironheart or Cap 4).

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jun 27th 2022 at 5:19:39 AM

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#143342: Jun 27th 2022 at 6:13:32 PM

My dream casting for M.O.D.O.K. would be someone who is both a) extremely hammy, and b) nasally. A raw, unapologetic cheese factory who loudly chews the scenery with every line of dialogue, but also sounds like the biggest fucking nerd you've ever met. Like Mandark from Dexter's Laboratory.

It would need to be someone who would sound good reading off the line, "Today, I DESTROYED my ex-girlfriend. Tomorrow: THE WORLD!!!"

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Funny but not helpful
#143343: Jun 27th 2022 at 6:15:56 PM

How do you feel about the Patton Oswalt MODOK from the Patton Oswalt MODOK show?

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HasturHasturHastur from Wheah the fahkin baby wheel is, Jay Since: Nov, 2010
#143344: Jun 27th 2022 at 7:41:12 PM

[up][up]Mark Hamill is safe but he'd be a great MODOK.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#143345: Jun 27th 2022 at 7:41:38 PM

Oh, man. I would love a Mark Hamill MODOK.

Nightwire Since: Feb, 2010
#143346: Jun 27th 2022 at 8:53:10 PM

Bruce Campbell as MODOK. Bonus Megas XLR reference.

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#143347: Jun 27th 2022 at 8:54:30 PM

Still in Raimi's posse, Ted Raimi wouldn't make a bad MODOK, actually. He can be surprisingly intimidating despite his regular nebbish, cowardly characters.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#143348: Jun 27th 2022 at 9:05:43 PM

MODOK should ideally sound like someone you cannot take seriously at all...until he starts murdering people right in front of you. One should never forget that his name is an acronym for Mechanized Organism Designed Only for Killing. He's a literal murder machine.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#143349: Jun 27th 2022 at 9:07:28 PM

He looks utterly ridiculous and ugly too.

The sheer ugliness with that huge ass head and stubby limbs serves to making himook disturbing.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#143350: Jun 27th 2022 at 9:08:31 PM

Does Jason Alexander still do acting work? Given how utterly unlikable he made George Costanza, I think he could work as MODOK.

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