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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#143301: Jun 25th 2022 at 5:52:24 AM

Yes, during that weird time when Tony joined the Guardians of the Galaxy

It was not a great time for him

Rocket made fun of his armor constantly for being shit tier compared to space technology

Gamora nearly broke him

And he made another alien woman nearly vomit with his beard

Edited by Bocaj on Jun 25th 2022 at 8:52:35 AM

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#143302: Jun 25th 2022 at 5:55:09 AM

It was written by Bendis so yeah. A pretty bad era for Guardian comics in general.

Took until the Cates run for the Guardians to stop ripping off the movies and stop forcing so many Earth heroes on the team weirdly enough.

[up] Amusingly by contrast Gamora finds Rider a suitable mate and is at one point disappointed when she thought he wasn't going to sleep with her after calling her to his room (he simply wanted to ask her to join Quill's new team, though he did still sleep with her afterwards)

Edited by slimcoder on Jun 25th 2022 at 6:04:16 AM

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Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#143303: Jun 25th 2022 at 6:23:14 AM

I mean Bendis is a pretty bleh writer on anything but Spider-Man so tracks regardless.

Still a funny joke imo ngl, if only because Stark back then kinda still had it coming to him. [lol]

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#143304: Jun 25th 2022 at 6:32:07 AM

His guardians run was sooooo empty

I can’t remember a thing that happened it, except embarrassing Tony Stark

I don’t think anything happened in it. I think it was just action beats in lieu of characterization to spin the wheels until the next event

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MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#143305: Jun 25th 2022 at 9:17:00 AM

Hey, random question for the X Meets Y page for the MCU. Can you use installments in the franchise to describe other works in the same franchise? Because there's a lot of them on that page, and it kinda bugs me.

Edited by MatthewWayne on Jun 25th 2022 at 9:17:18 AM

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#143306: Jun 25th 2022 at 10:33:20 AM

[up][up][up],[up][up] His Daredevil run is pretty good though. I'd like to even see some of it adapted for that new Daredevil show they're working on.

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#143307: Jun 25th 2022 at 10:44:00 AM

Bendis is best when writing Streetlevel-Stuff. He isn't really made for big stuff.

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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#143308: Jun 25th 2022 at 10:45:08 AM

Bendis' (fantastic) Daredevil run is in fact what really solidified him as a comics superstar. The earlier Powers put his name on the map, but it was that DD run that made everyone stand in attention.

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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#143310: Jun 25th 2022 at 10:50:47 AM

There's an argument for that as well (Powers-DD-Ultimate Spider-Man were all in very close proximity around the early 00's) but personally I always thought Daredevil was the one that made everyone go "we really need this guy", with Ultimate Spidey being just the crowning jewel.

Granted I might be biased because I prefer his Daredevil run.

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#143311: Jun 25th 2022 at 11:33:38 AM

I thought his Avengers stuff was pretty decent overall. Not spectacular or anything, but pretty good stuff mostly.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#143312: Jun 25th 2022 at 11:50:12 AM

Weirdly enough despite the poor reception to his Guardians it was still the longest Guardians run ever at well over 40 issues and even a relaunch.

Which I think Bendis did admit in the final issue after letter that he basically hoarded the title for himself to bank on the properties new success with the movie.

I think he did write one of the multitudes of Guardians spin-offs they released at the time.

This is also the same run where he forced a bizarre engagement between Star-Lord and Kitty Pride who is a bit of a pet character of his.

Edited by slimcoder on Jun 25th 2022 at 11:54:36 AM

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HalfFaust Since: Jan, 2019
#143313: Jun 25th 2022 at 12:28:30 PM

And also Kitty was Star-Lord for a little bit, which was weird.

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Funny but not helpful
#143314: Jun 25th 2022 at 12:31:03 PM

I don’t mind that conceptually

A lot of titles are able to be transferred to legacy and all of the higher things Star-Lord meant had long been filed away to make him more of a grounded sci fi hero

I don’t think much of anything interesting was done with Kitty as Star-Lord but that’s execution

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#143315: Jun 25th 2022 at 2:06:29 PM

The only thing that came from Kitty dating Star-Lord is that now she's the one who dates all the Peters.

Piotr Rasputin, Pete Wisdom (which was apparently kinda skeevy), her Ultimate self dated Ultimate Peter Parker, and now she's dated Peter Quill.

That's four times (three in the main universe, and one alternate universe self) that Kitty has dated a Peter.

Like, I want to see this keep being a thing. Are there any other Peter's in Marvel?

Edited by HandsomeRob on Jun 25th 2022 at 2:06:39 AM

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Surrounded by weirdoes
#143317: Jun 25th 2022 at 2:13:16 PM

Quicksilver (Pietro) comes to mind, but that might be beyond any standards.

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Akirakan Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#143318: Jun 25th 2022 at 4:36:23 PM

Interesting commentary by Raimi regarding John Krasinski's casting, from the official movie commentary.

He does imply that this casting might be a one and done thing, and might not mean that Krasinski will play Richards in the main MCU films.

ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
#143319: Jun 25th 2022 at 4:44:15 PM

I mean, he probably wouldn't know anyway. There's no reason why he'd be privy to any sort of contract information-he's involved in that end of things and there's no reason to think he has concrete plans to do anything with Marvel again anytime soon.

Waldron might know, but again it's very unlikely. Even Sarah Finn probably wouldn't know.

AyyItsMidnight Look, just be decent to one another ok? Since: Oct, 2018
Look, just be decent to one another ok?
#143320: Jun 25th 2022 at 4:47:29 PM

I saw people on here say William Jackson Harper would make a great Reed Richards, and the more I think about it I really, really dig that casting.

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Pseudopartition Screaming Into The Void from The Cretaeceous Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
Screaming Into The Void
#143321: Jun 25th 2022 at 7:20:21 PM

[up] Hands down my favourite of the fancasts I've seen, he was great in The Good Place. The people suggesting Rahul Kohli are also valid.

DarthNoxIsCool Since: Jun, 2022
#143322: Jun 26th 2022 at 7:53:53 AM

I think if they don't hire John Krasinski, it's because they want a younger version of Reed Richards, so I don't think they'll hire a person in their late 30s or early 40's to replace him.

Edited by DarthNoxIsCool on Jun 26th 2022 at 7:57:29 AM

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#143323: Jun 26th 2022 at 9:42:08 AM

[up] I just hope this doesn't end up being a Time-Shifted Actor thing...

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#143324: Jun 26th 2022 at 10:32:51 AM

I expect they'll want a relatively young actor for Reed. Xavier too. They'll want someone who they can reasonably expect to still be playing these characters in ten years.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#143325: Jun 26th 2022 at 10:36:32 AM

Makes me curious how long would they hold out on bringing in Franklin and Valeria

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