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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Whowho Since: May, 2012
#143276: Jun 24th 2022 at 4:33:19 AM

They repeate the end of the academic year, not the whole of it. The blip happened in early summer 2018, and then unhappenes in early spring 2023 I believe.

BOOXMOWO Since: Mar, 2013
#143277: Jun 24th 2022 at 4:50:06 AM

Far From Home says directly in its opening scene that 8 months have passed since they Blipped back, and since that scene happened at the end of the American school year, ie. in June, that means they Blipped back in October.

I can't recall any direct citation on what year Hawkeye takes place, but eh, I think it's more likely that there was just some confusion over how direct a followup to NWH MoM is meant to be.

dcutter2 Since: Sep, 2013
#143278: Jun 24th 2022 at 5:07:03 AM

First Christmas after the blip also makes most sense for Hawkeye's story as well.

I think just 'no Mo M doesn't take place before Hawkeye' is the best answer here.

SAwatching from south africa Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#143279: Jun 24th 2022 at 5:08:12 AM

I remember hearing a rumor that Korvac was going to appear but dismissed it at the time, due to the main villain being said to be a female, but it wouldn't be the first time in the MCU that characters have been gender-swapped. Still, he does sound like the perfect villain, able to absorb cosmic energy which Carol use as her powers would make a hard foe to fight.

Sincerely S Awatching.
Whowho Since: May, 2012
#143280: Jun 24th 2022 at 6:09:42 AM

First Christmas after the blip would make sense for Hawkeye, if they didn't have the characters discuss their family Christmas that took place the year prior (which Clint was unable to attend I believe, part of why this Christmas is so important is because something unspecified prevented him from attending their one the year prior. And that can't be a Christmas prior to the blip becaus Clint spent that Christmas ndrr house arrest)

dcutter2 Since: Sep, 2013
#143281: Jun 24th 2022 at 6:27:18 AM

Huh. I don't remember them saying anything that specific. Perfect excuse for a Hawkeye rewatch I guess.

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#143282: Jun 24th 2022 at 7:56:47 AM

No Way Home takes place at the end of 2023, Multiverse of Madness during 2024, and then Hawkeye presumably at the end of 2024.

That's not true. According to the MCU wiki and other sources, No Way Home primarily takes place in November of 2024, shortly before Hawkeye begins.

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
ShadowWingLG Since: Dec, 2013
#143283: Jun 24th 2022 at 8:04:22 AM

We get two clues in NWH that its late fall, Halloween directions in the cafe (where MJ's boss tells her to take them down since they are past Halloween) and the shot of the Rockerfeller Christmas Tree lit up in the final shots of Peter as Spiderman. The tree goes up around Thanksgiving IIRC. And we know in story that Hawkeye occurs shortly before Christmas.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#143284: Jun 24th 2022 at 2:46:03 PM

In regards to guys like Korvac, I can imagine Thanos' crusade has lead to a superhuman arms race that can be used to justify bringing in higher tier powered characters.

The Nova Corps could be convinced to unleash the Nova Force.

The Shi'ar are intrdouced having avoided the worst of the devstation cause they had Gladiator and the Imperial Guard.

The Skrulls could be galvanized into reforming the Skrull Empire and engaging in the Super-Skrull experiments.

And the Kree could further their superweapon experiments leading to the creation of Korvac and Vox to replicate their own Captain Marvel.

Which now that I think about it, I just now thought of a good reason to bring in the rest of the Mar-Vell family.

Maybe Mar-Vell has family on Hala or another world, and the Empire abducted them, torturing and experimenting on them as punishment for Mar-Vell's crimes against the empire. Leading to say Genis-Vell appearing as her nephew as the new Kree superweapon, their own Captain Marvel as a twisted cruel irony against Carol and her mentor.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#143285: Jun 24th 2022 at 2:46:59 PM

Thanos murder killed all the Nova corps though?

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#143286: Jun 24th 2022 at 2:49:13 PM

That happens all the time in the comics

The secret is: recruit and train more

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#143287: Jun 24th 2022 at 2:51:28 PM

They could use that to introduce the Worldmind and have it decide that the Nova Corps needs a huge upgrade

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#143288: Jun 24th 2022 at 2:53:57 PM

Thanos forget to destroy their builders so they built another HQ which let them build more Nova corps,clasic RTS mistake,you gotta destroy their resource gathers too

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
Spinosegnosaurus77 Ramen Fairy from Ontario, Canada Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: All I Want for Christmas is a Girlfriend
Ramen Fairy
#143289: Jun 24th 2022 at 6:32:34 PM

[up][up][up][up] All we know is that their planet was destroyed; we don’t know if any escaped.

Peace is the only battle worth waging.
SAwatching from south africa Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#143290: Jun 25th 2022 at 12:24:58 AM

In the comic lore wasn't what triggered a cosmic superpower arms race was the discovery of humanity huge genetic potential for a mass population of superhuman.

Sincerely S Awatching.
windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#143291: Jun 25th 2022 at 1:31:52 AM

That happens all the time in the comics

The secret is: recruit and train more

You have to wonder how they keep getting members given their low mortality rate. Especially since, as far as I'm aware, they don't get paid.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#143292: Jun 25th 2022 at 3:41:11 AM

Now that I think about it I'm not sure if Green Lanterns get paid either

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
The sleepiest good boi
#143293: Jun 25th 2022 at 3:44:46 AM

Guardians of the Universe: The ring chose you, you're a space cop now.

Hal Jordan: Sweet, cops on my planet get paid good money!

Guardians of the Universe: What the hell is money?

Hal Jordan: ...Do I at least get vacation days?

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#143294: Jun 25th 2022 at 3:53:50 AM

In retrospect it is unclear how pay works in an universe ancient paramilitary organization that operates outside the purview of most planets in a galaxy without any sort of centralized currency or government ala a space federation.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#143295: Jun 25th 2022 at 4:01:45 AM

Can Lantern Rings create food?

EDIT: Sorry for the Off Topic.

Edited by Forenperser on Jun 25th 2022 at 1:02:04 PM

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MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#143296: Jun 25th 2022 at 4:46:03 AM

I kinda wanna hear Groot recite the Lantern Oath now...

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#143297: Jun 25th 2022 at 5:09:58 AM

Nova get paid in getting a sweet hat

But in fairness after being wiped out for the umpteenth time they are having trouble building back up, especially since they don’t have a lot of working super helmets left

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#143298: Jun 25th 2022 at 5:38:17 AM

Well Nova did get some booty calls from Gamora at least.

So there's some good to come out of this. tongue

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#143299: Jun 25th 2022 at 5:48:03 AM

And unlike Tony “To Boldly Go” Stark, he didn’t limp away from an underwhelmed Gamora with a bruised pelvis

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dcutter2 Since: Sep, 2013
#143300: Jun 25th 2022 at 5:50:48 AM

This the comics?

eta: as to the MCU Nova Corps. Well we don't see them in Endgame so I assume they're dead. Thor just said Xandar was decimated. Which technically means 90% of them would be left.

But I guess Thanos wiped out the Corp before doing his 50% cull of the survivors.

Edited by dcutter2 on Jun 25th 2022 at 1:52:37 PM


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