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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#143176: Jun 21st 2022 at 9:57:32 AM

My assumption before the films was that the Black Order were going to be the main villains during Infinity War then Thanos would take the center stage in the following film. Instead he was pretty central in the first then nearly absent for half the second.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#143177: Jun 21st 2022 at 10:21:03 AM

If Corvus did resurrect out of his glaive we wouldn’t know it

But I don’t now if magic glaive can overcome infinity fueled “you stop existing now kthx”

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DarthNoxIsCool Since: Jun, 2022
#143178: Jun 21st 2022 at 10:36:14 AM

Calling Corvus an "Elite Mook" sounds too generous.

He would be closer to being a Fake Ultimate Mook, since a group of Street level heroes beat him easily.

Edited by DarthNoxIsCool on Jun 21st 2022 at 10:36:53 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#143179: Jun 21st 2022 at 11:00:33 AM

The comic Black Order are all fairly powerful.

Corvus at one point immediately turned Wolverine into a kebab with little effort

And Cull Obsidian was killed off by guys like Gladiator, Ronan, and Annihilus all teaming up against him

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MurlocAggroB from the second-most ridiculous province of Canada Since: May, 2015
#143180: Jun 21st 2022 at 11:13:02 AM

The Black Order are pretty powerful in Infinity War. They got taken down, but it was always through teamwork or being outsmarted or (mostly) environmental kills. None of the heroes had any chance against any of them in a 1v1. They got nerfed pretty hard in Endgame, but also keep in mind that everyone except Cull Obsidian IIRC was alive to get dusted at the end.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#143181: Jun 21st 2022 at 11:46:06 AM

Everyone got nerfed in the MCU

Carol got buffed relative to others but still isn’t as wild as her wildest comic self

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#143182: Jun 21st 2022 at 11:47:13 AM

And Hulk needs no explanation there [lol]

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TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#143183: Jun 21st 2022 at 11:53:22 AM

The comics keep adding random new shit to Hulk's character every other week. Meanwhile, MCU Banner keeps permanently merging with the Hulk but then unmerging because Hulk got tuckered out

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alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#143184: Jun 21st 2022 at 11:53:48 AM

Those film rights are pretty powerful tho. [lol]

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#143185: Jun 21st 2022 at 1:50:27 PM

[up][up][up][up][up]Corvus Glaive also got fatally speared by Okoye during the Girl Power Rush, and Proxima Midnight is seen cradling his corpse during the big dusting.

I guess he could have technically still been alive and bleeding out at that point, but he was taken out of the battle at the very least; Ebony Maw and Proxima Midnight are the only two who suffered no visible injuries other than being snapped away at the end.

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MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#143186: Jun 21st 2022 at 2:08:46 PM

I was hoping that the Black Order would get a bit more screen time in What If, but so far they've only played a minor role in the Star-Lord episode. It's possible they could show up in the Gamora episode though...

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#143187: Jun 21st 2022 at 2:10:55 PM

I find it amusing how disappointed Hulk fans are in the character.

I don't think anyone really likes the current direction for the guy.

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TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#143188: Jun 21st 2022 at 2:28:12 PM

The Hulk is a character designed to break bases. Every writer has a wildly different interpretation of him all of which are mutually canon so there are like 87 different versions of him now, which usually just turn into Hulk personas like Worldbreaker, Savage Hulk, or Joe Fixit.

This is a fact that the MCU has done a pretty good job of replicating. He's basically a completely different character in every MCU film. By Endgame, they stopped even bothering to try and explain the shifts.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Jun 21st 2022 at 2:29:30 AM

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lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
The sleepiest good boi
#143189: Jun 21st 2022 at 2:44:41 PM

Though of actual Hulk personalities, only Savage and Professor have shown up in the MCU. Others like Joe Fixit, Green Scar, and Immortal/Devil Hulk are complete no-shows so far.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#143190: Jun 21st 2022 at 2:48:30 PM

We're lucky to get even get regular Hulk,getting his other 'hulks' is really difficult

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#143191: Jun 21st 2022 at 5:10:49 PM

It's kinda a worst of both worlds.

The inner conflict between Banner and any of the Hulk personalities is downplayed, currently nonexistant, so the psychological conflict between the character is gone.

Meanwhile Hulk got his ass kicked, never fought again after Thanos, and is weaker than ever, meaning the people who want to see Hulk Smash are gonna be dissatisfied.

Meaning there's nothing to really like about or be interested in the character anymore.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#143193: Jun 21st 2022 at 5:16:06 PM

shoot him into the sun,problem solved!

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XMenMutant22 The Feline Follies of Felix the Cat Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#143194: Jun 21st 2022 at 5:35:46 PM

Recently saw a Hulk fan Twitter page begrudgingly realize that the MCU could absolutely handle Bruce's alternate Hulks...

It's just called Moon Knight (2022).

Edited by XMenMutant22 on Jun 21st 2022 at 2:26:20 PM

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she/her friend to the hooved
#143195: Jun 21st 2022 at 9:34:24 PM

I remember noticing that Marc and Steven's interactions felt more 'Hulk' than the MCU Hulk ever really has.

Edited by Chortleous on Jun 21st 2022 at 11:34:36 AM

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#143196: Jun 21st 2022 at 9:35:23 PM

The "talking through mirrors" tidbit is itself more of a Hulk thing, even in the comics.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#143198: Jun 22nd 2022 at 1:48:19 AM

Man it's a shame we never got Joe Fixit.

He would be hilarious. A grey skinned Hulk dressed in a pinstripe suit working as a bouncer in Las Vegas and talking like a mobster from Goodfellas.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#143199: Jun 22nd 2022 at 2:09:39 AM

I mean, you could still do it. Have Professor mess up some gamma experiment and boom. Now if only he could get solo movies. tongue

windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#143200: Jun 22nd 2022 at 6:00:27 AM

[up][up][up] I like the Ang Lee film so I'd support that.smile


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