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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#143076: Jun 15th 2022 at 5:59:36 PM

It was pointed out to me that he looks like an edgy Black Bolt and I can't unsee it now

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/a628c8a3be514a4a170032e0e214b12e.jpg

Which is probably intentional since the Vox was created to combat the Royal Family and their armies

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
#143077: Jun 15th 2022 at 6:09:44 PM

Yeah that was very much by design.

Specifically they resemble Black Bolt's son, Black Knight (later called Black Bolt 2) from Earth X.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#143078: Jun 15th 2022 at 7:27:20 PM

Dammit earth x references just don’t stop from happening

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#143079: Jun 15th 2022 at 7:28:15 PM

The show Moon Knight suit is also based on his Earth X look

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#143080: Jun 15th 2022 at 7:32:18 PM

It’s so surprisingly influential

Even the big Inhumans push started with a plot point echoing something from Earth X

Edited by Bocaj on Jun 15th 2022 at 10:32:47 AM

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Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#143081: Jun 15th 2022 at 10:01:48 PM

Me: Earth X? Whats that?

-Google-

Oh. Ohhh. Uh. Hmm. OK.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#143082: Jun 15th 2022 at 10:09:59 PM

It's very very weird.

Apparently Wizard magazine asked Alex Ross to create a Bad Future idea for Marvel and his concept art and notes were so popular that Marvel made an actual series out of it.

And it was the weirdest goddamn thing to ever be eternally recycled into everything. There are weirder things in Marvel nothing that I can think of with the reach and influence of Earth X.

Since it was a Bad Future, it was intended to be canon to the 616.

Which lasted until plot points like "Wolverine isn't a mutant, he's actually one of the few pure humans" and "the gods are actually mutants" started getting sprinkled in.

To bring it back around to the MCU: the big plot point from Eternals of Earth having a baby Celestial growing inside it? Pretty sure that was pioneered by Earth X too. Its concepts get everywhere.

Edited by Bocaj on Jun 15th 2022 at 1:13:47 PM

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#143083: Jun 15th 2022 at 10:12:49 PM

Its also where we got this cool design of Venom.

Peter's daughter Spider-Girl/Mayday.

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/mayx_3450.jpg

Edited by slimcoder on Jun 15th 2022 at 10:13:02 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#143084: Jun 15th 2022 at 10:15:45 PM

"Wolverine isn't a mutant, he's actually one of the few pure humans"

What.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#143085: Jun 15th 2022 at 10:21:55 PM

He's descended from Moon Boy

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#143086: Jun 15th 2022 at 10:29:47 PM

There’s that AU madness

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
jouXIII The One Who Knows Many Things from Between the Multiverses (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#143088: Jun 16th 2022 at 3:31:18 AM

jUST sAY NO to Alternate Universes

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
dcutter2 Since: Sep, 2013
#143089: Jun 16th 2022 at 7:02:26 AM

There were a couple of AoU chats that were shut down in the Falcon and Winter Soldier and Multiverse of Madness threads for being too off topic and it was said they should be moved here.

If anyone's still interested they were the classic 'How much can Tony be blamed for Ultron?' and 'Did Ao U try and overwrite Winter Soldier and bring back SHIELD'?

Edited by dcutter2 on Jun 16th 2022 at 3:02:54 PM

HasturHasturHastur from Wheah the fahkin baby wheel is, Jay Since: Nov, 2010
#143090: Jun 16th 2022 at 7:24:30 AM

The Vox honestly look kinda like Xenomorphs.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#143091: Jun 16th 2022 at 7:58:18 AM

Underneath the armor the Super-Inhumans are actually not any different from regular Inhumans. The only real difference is that the "Super" Inhumans had even less humanity than the Inhumans. Heck, all that's needed to convert a regular Inhuman into one is some brainwashing.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#143093: Jun 16th 2022 at 2:47:42 PM

Awesome.

I've pondered the idea of having the MCU do a sort of inversion of the comics where Wonder Man is a human identity adopted by White!Vision.

Alternatively, I thought that Klingo of the Eternals could be a Composite Character and start calling himself Wonder Man, since he's a self-absorbed actor with superpowers.

But in any case, I'm interested and I thought Cretton did a great job with Shang Chi.

Edit - In light of the Brooklyn 99 connection I'm imagining Andy Sandberg as Simon Wiliams, and I'm liking it.

Edited by Hodor2 on Jun 16th 2022 at 2:48:44 AM

dcutter2 Since: Sep, 2013
#143094: Jun 16th 2022 at 2:52:21 PM

Did any thing of Nathan Fillion's Simon Williams make it into the release version of GotG2? Or was it all cut. I thought there was still posters.

I expect they won't mind recasting or retconning that though.

Edited by dcutter2 on Jun 16th 2022 at 10:52:35 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#143095: Jun 16th 2022 at 2:54:51 PM

Cool interview by Sam Jackson

"Samuel L. Jackson: ‘I’d Rather Be Nick Fury’ Than Win Oscars or Chase Oscar-Baiting Roles"

“As jaded as I wanted to be about it, you know thinking, ‘Well, I should have won an Oscar for this or should have won for that and it didn’t happen,’ once I got over it many years ago, it wasn’t a big deal for me. I always have fun going to the Oscars. I always look forward to getting a gift basket for being a presenter. [Laughs] I give stuff to my relatives; my daughter and my wife would take stuff out. It’s cool…But otherwise, I was past it.”

“I was never going to let the Oscars be a measure of my success or failure as an actor. My yardstick of success is my happiness: Am I satisfied with what I’m doing? I’m not doing statue-chasing movies. You know [whispers]: ‘If you do this movie, you’ll win an Oscar.’ No, thanks. I’d rather be Nick Fury. Or having fun being Mace Windu with a lightsaber in my hand.”

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#143096: Jun 16th 2022 at 3:03:00 PM

Not surprising from the man who signed up to be in Snakes on a Plane based on the title Snakes on a Plane

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#143097: Jun 16th 2022 at 6:18:20 PM

Yeah, Sam Jack made it clear a long time ago that he acts to have fun and bring fun to other people first and foremost. It's such a breath of fresh air, imo.

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#143098: Jun 16th 2022 at 6:20:59 PM

Amusingly, one of the most acclaimed (and "Oscar Bait in any other film") roles of Jackson's is in another superhero film: Unbreakable. It's the sort of performance that should, in a just world, get one an Oscar. It just didn't.

Edited by Gaon on Jun 16th 2022 at 6:21:12 AM

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
uncertanSearcher It's always Season of the Witch from Germany Since: Oct, 2017
It's always Season of the Witch
#143099: Jun 16th 2022 at 10:00:35 PM

Winning an oscar is overrated anyway. I dont think thats even that much of an hot take anymore.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#143100: Jun 17th 2022 at 5:46:47 AM

To you maybe,but then again you're not an actor,and neither am I.

have a listen and have a link to my discord server

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