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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Speaking of crazy shit
Man if they brought in Jon Bernthal to play Cosmic Ghost Rider, that would be fucking epic. Thats some crazy what if shit.
Like this moment where he uses Penance to disintegrate Punisher Thanos.
Edited by slimcoder on Jun 11th 2022 at 5:49:55 AM
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."While they'll never actually depower her permanently, I have been kicking around the theory that the movie will have a threat that takes Carol out or depowers her temporarily during the story, such that Monica and Kamala have to band together to help her so that she can come back as strong as ever in the climax of the films.
A la "holy crap, X bad guy injured Goku! Guess it's up to Vegeta / Piccolo / Gohan / whoever to fight the good fight until we get Goku back!" Or, on a more genre example, Superman having to fight Metallo or Parasite and needing his allies to fight the fight after staid villain exploits his weaknesses.
I had the thought that the main villain of the Marvels could be Mystique, manipulating anti-villain Rogue into stealing Carols powers, leading to Monica and Kamala having to come to her aid. Mystique made her comic debut as a Ms. Marvel villain after all.
It would certenly be a way to start incorporating X-men characters into the mcu.
Edited by uncertanSearcher on Jun 12th 2022 at 5:35:57 PM
Because Gladiator is the head of the Imperial Guard, ergo he serves whoever is in power. Depose D'Ken, and he's no longer Gladiator's master.
As for Vulcan, he's honestly a crossover-level villain. Easily one of the most stupidly overpowered Marvel villains, held back only by his insanity and utter lack of fighting ability (because he never has to fight because almost anyone who goes up against him gets turned into ash in one shot).
First Class came out before Hunger Games and already gave Mystique the Adaptational Heroism treatment. It was clearly their plan from the beginning and had nothing to do with the Hunger Games.
Yeah but then they made Mystique into the leader of the X-Men team.
That's pretty much the Jennifer Lawrence hype machine influencing Fox executives.
Like there's a difference between fleshing out a villain, and then redeeming them because their actor is hot in the general public. X-Men apocalypse was when the hype for Hunger Games was at an all time high.
Edited by RedHunter543 on Jun 12th 2022 at 9:50:28 AM
"The Black Rage makes us strong, because we must resist its temptations every day of our lives or be forever damned!"Gladiator would be an interesting beefy boy threat because his power level is tied into how confident he is in what he’s doing
Shake his resolve and he might go down like a chump
Letting him be an unstoppable wall of muscle early on but weakened enough to beat by Plot developments
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It's not about giving Mystique more heroic and sympathetic traits, it was the fact that they made Mystique of all people into an actual hero beloved by the Mutant community, someone who helped soften Mutant-Human relations, AND the leader of the X-Men.
I have thought about the idea of Mystique and Rogue being the villains of The Marvels and there's something kinda funny about Mystique engineering this plot to have Rogue steal Carol's powers just so they can, like, rob banks better or some shit. Like a cosmic sci-fi Die Hard.
That'd certainly be one way to throw in some surprisingly lower stakes even for a movie with three main heroes as powerful as they are.
I loved Mystique in the first few X-Men movies, and I really want Rogue to be redeemed after Anna Paquin got sidelined over time. So them showing up in the future would be definitely something neat in my book.
I also think it would be funny/cool to see the Skrulls encounter Mystique and lampshade how frustrating it is to be on the opposite end of fighting a shapeshifter.
"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."I personally prefer Rogue as not a flying brick, to put more emphasis on the power draining.
A lot of comics had her lean more on being super tough and flying and only resort to the power draining as a last resort.
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The Fox-Men movies actually did focus more on the power draining than the Flying Brick stuff, which I thought was really cool and interesting. It's just that they made her super mousey and afraid to use those powers, which kinda hinders her as a character, and they ultimately had her give them up in The Last Stand because they didn't really know what to do with Rogue after Bobby got together with Kitty.
I hope the MCU goes the same route, but with making Rogue unafraid to drain people.
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And that's exactly why the nerf in adaptations is necessary, Carol or Thor don't need to go around destroying dimensional barriers every fight.
Edited by DarthNoxIsCool on Jun 11th 2022 at 3:33:56 AM