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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#142926: Jun 10th 2022 at 11:31:34 AM

[up] Yeah, the entire point is that it isn't one or the other, and there's no reason to think it's somehow one or the other.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Jun 10th 2022 at 11:31:54 AM

HasturHasturHastur from Wheah the fahkin baby wheel is, Jay Since: Nov, 2010
#142927: Jun 10th 2022 at 11:40:48 AM

[up][up]Wouldn't even be a contest. Taskmaster is a cyborg and Echo is just an ordinary human who got wrecked by a Black Widow. Maya should stick to the Marvel Knights milieu and never even meet Taskmaster.

dcutter2 Since: Sep, 2013
#142928: Jun 10th 2022 at 12:04:28 PM

[up] Taskmaster also got wrecked by a Black Widow. Though they did have to jump out of a cloudbase first.

Edited by dcutter2 on Jun 10th 2022 at 8:05:22 PM

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#142929: Jun 10th 2022 at 12:21:54 PM

Man, I still can't get over how dirty they did Taskmaster in the movie. We didn't even get any cool moveset-mimicking fights that weren't already shown off (nearly in full!) in the trailers.

Is there a term or a trope for that? When a movie prematurely blows its load in the trailers and leaves nothing for the actual film itself?

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uncertanSearcher It's always Season of the Witch from Germany Since: Oct, 2017
It's always Season of the Witch
#142930: Jun 10th 2022 at 12:27:09 PM

The closest would probably be Trailers Always Spoil.

But yea they really only did the barest minimum with the copy abilities.

Edited by uncertanSearcher on Jun 10th 2022 at 9:33:00 PM

DarthNoxIsCool Since: Jun, 2022
#142931: Jun 10th 2022 at 1:43:24 PM

Taskmaster seems like a strange character to me, because he's supposed to copy moves but not copy stats, so even if he has Spider-man's moves, he shouldn't have his super-strength and super-agility.

Still, many writers seem to forget that, to justify a Superhuman having a mirror battle with him.

MurlocAggroB from the second-most ridiculous province of Canada Since: May, 2015
#142932: Jun 10th 2022 at 2:35:52 PM

[up] I think the handwave is that he can temporarily turn off pain, so he can push himself past his limit to briefly copy superhuman feats. But he literally rips his muscles apart to do it.

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Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#142934: Jun 10th 2022 at 2:38:16 PM

That is actually a thing yeah.

Its a tactic for him to put up a video of some fight moves and then play it 2 times as fast which he can copy that enabling him a sort of super mode at the cost of it being too much strain for his body.

[up] I'm pretty sure he drank a super soldier serum or something that upped his physical stats.

Edited by slimcoder on Jun 10th 2022 at 2:39:07 AM

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#142935: Jun 10th 2022 at 2:52:44 PM

Taskmaster's mask will never not look stupid.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#142936: Jun 10th 2022 at 3:18:43 PM

The mask does get drawn in various ways

From a skull

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/5490708_capt_am_steve_rogers_10_5.jpg

To the short-lived Udon look

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/taskmaster_1.png

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#142937: Jun 10th 2022 at 3:28:56 PM

I'm partial to the Udon look myself. Considering the MCU's penchant for "practical" costumes I would've thought they'd do a straight implementation of it.

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#142938: Jun 10th 2022 at 3:41:52 PM

I always thought the UDON look was the best look the character had (and that miniseries was itself pretty fun).

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
Foreign Troper
#142939: Jun 10th 2022 at 3:46:30 PM

Yeah, that definitely looked better than this goofy Skull thing.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#142940: Jun 10th 2022 at 3:46:48 PM

But does he eat any udon noodles while in that mask?

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#142941: Jun 10th 2022 at 4:56:06 PM

Tasky's whole thing is he's a mercenary up for any hire (except Nazi's, thats just a bad luck).

Except for the times he has worked for Red Skull.

[up]×2

But the Goofy Skull is more his style.

Edited by Cortez on Jun 10th 2022 at 7:57:15 AM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#142942: Jun 11th 2022 at 4:35:09 AM

The skull looks too edgy for a supervillain that's basically a mimic fighter

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#142943: Jun 11th 2022 at 4:56:01 AM

[up] Well, he's a very scary mimic fighter.

Edited by windleopard on Jun 11th 2022 at 12:56:35 PM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#142944: Jun 11th 2022 at 5:10:24 AM

he's a scariest ditto ever!

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Nightwire Since: Feb, 2010
#142945: Jun 11th 2022 at 5:32:14 AM

How do you go from "mercenary with mimic ability" to "I must dress up in my Skeletor cosplay"?

Like what is the thought process here?

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#142946: Jun 11th 2022 at 5:35:20 AM

"He needs to cooler, scarier,meanier!

"So like give him some skulls?

"Exactly!Make him look like death incarnate!"

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uncertanSearcher It's always Season of the Witch from Germany Since: Oct, 2017
It's always Season of the Witch
#142947: Jun 11th 2022 at 5:42:14 AM

Taskmaster is just edgy that way.

HasturHasturHastur from Wheah the fahkin baby wheel is, Jay Since: Nov, 2010
#142948: Jun 11th 2022 at 7:05:45 AM

Deathstroke has always looked way more convincingly intimidating than Tasky.

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#142949: Jun 11th 2022 at 7:30:31 AM

That's because ninjas in general look very intimidating. Why do you think they randomly show up everywhere?

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#142950: Jun 11th 2022 at 7:41:09 AM

The funny thing is that as originally portrayed if Taskmaster wound up having to fight someone in his skull mask, he’s already kinda lost

He never wanted to get bogged down in the supers punching supers game. He considered it initially but realized it was a suckers bet.

The real money is in teaching other suckers to get punched by supers for a paycheck

Taskmaster’s School of Mooks and Minions!

And it worked out great! He made a lot of money!

But it seems like he’s in a worse position nowadays where most of what he does is get punched by supers. He’s let his administration dreams die. Or maybe nobody wants to pay top dollar for a highly trained Taskmaster mook anymore

Not with the economy the way it is. You can just pay desperate people minimum wage or less to get punched by Captain America.

It’s sad. When a supervillain who didn’t want to be a supervillain has to supervillain to make ends meet

Edited by Bocaj on Jun 11th 2022 at 10:41:34 AM

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