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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#142651: Jun 2nd 2022 at 3:30:34 PM

Yeah. It's a tragedy that we couldn't have Peter Parker receive a pep talk from Literally Stan Lee.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Jun 2nd 2022 at 3:30:48 AM

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MurlocAggroB from the second-most ridiculous province of Canada Since: May, 2015
#142652: Jun 2nd 2022 at 3:58:02 PM

[up] To be fair, we did exactly that in Into the Spider-Verse. Not Peter Parker granted, but still a Spider-Man.

Edited by MurlocAggroB on Jun 2nd 2022 at 4:58:19 AM

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dcutter2 Since: Sep, 2013
#142653: Jun 2nd 2022 at 4:05:42 PM

In tbe 90s Spidey cartoon it ends on Spidey taking Stan Lee webswinging. After Spider Wars, the original spiderverse story.

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#142654: Jun 2nd 2022 at 4:11:13 PM

Or his cameo in the PS 4 game, shipping Peter and MJ.

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fanman "To watch it all burn." from Earth-Prime/Earth-1218 Since: Feb, 2022 Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
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#142655: Jun 2nd 2022 at 4:26:19 PM

In the comics I think it’s the captain Britain corp deciding how to number universes and I have no idea what their criteria is
Given this new Myth Arc is about the multiverse, I feel like a Captain Britain Corps movie or show is inevitable. I've heard that a lot of people want Henry Cavill as Brian, and he wants to play the character, so this could be a Mr. Fantastic-John Krasinski situation.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#142656: Jun 2nd 2022 at 6:50:30 PM

What are the odds someone would say something is super, man adjacent to him?

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HasturHasturHastur from Wheah the fahkin baby wheel is, Jay Since: Nov, 2010
#142657: Jun 2nd 2022 at 7:51:03 PM

[up][up]The hope is that that would introduce Psylocke, Meggan, Nightcrawler, and Shadowcat as well, and maybe Lockheed (little dude would certainly be marketable), as well as giving Black Knight his start. That way, we get a full Excalibur lineup that eventually ties in with the X-Men. As for casting, Sofia Black-D'Elia was born to play Kitty Pryde, that's all I know.

Boston Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
#142658: Jun 2nd 2022 at 9:51:13 PM

Complete with cat tattoo on her shoulder, amirite?

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#142659: Jun 2nd 2022 at 10:12:21 PM

  • Strange: So you guys police the Multiverse?
  • Captain Britain: Yeah. Funny thing, there didn't used to be a multiverse. But then, all of a sudden, there was and always had been. But that's not even the weird part.
  • Strange: No?
  • Captain Britain: No. The weird part is that when the multiverse was born, like a billion rogue Lokis from nonexistent universes started spilling out of nowhere and spreading all across the multiverse. No one knows why. They just came with the multiverse.
  • Strange: Sure, that's a thing that might as well happen. Okay, I'm starting to see the value in your organization.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Jun 2nd 2022 at 10:15:36 AM

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#142660: Jun 2nd 2022 at 11:09:44 PM

Fun fact, the whole organization of alternates that got really, really big due to Spider-Verse started with Captain Britain in the Captain Britain Corps from the Alan Moore run.

Yes that Alan Moore. Captain Britain was actually like his original deconstruction story where he applied a lot of the story elements that he would later refine and then perfect in Miracleman, Swamp-Thing, and finally Watchmen.

Some impressive history there. This video goes into good detail over Alan Moore and Alan Davis' run.

Edited by slimcoder on Jun 2nd 2022 at 11:10:11 AM

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HasturHasturHastur from Wheah the fahkin baby wheel is, Jay Since: Nov, 2010
#142661: Jun 3rd 2022 at 5:05:50 AM

The more I think about it, the more I think Captain Britain/Excalibur has the potential to be one of the coolest MCU titles. I kind of envision it being done like a much more fantastic multiversal James Bond, which is probably why I fancast Judi Dench as Saturnyne - a characterization influenced by Dench's portrayal of M seems perfect. Liam Neeson gets my vote as Merlyn.

I do kinda take issue with Cavill portraying Brian though. Dev Patel always gets my vote. Rather than another classically built lantern-jawed white actor, I'd like to have Brian portrayed by another eminent up-and-coming British actor who reflects the diversity of the modern day UK.

Edited by HasturHasturHastur on Jun 3rd 2022 at 5:07:22 AM

J79 Since: Jan, 2015
#142662: Jun 3rd 2022 at 6:36:34 AM

Ok, A kind of morbid question about the snap. If someone was snapped at the exact moment that they died, would they be living when they get unsnapped or would it just be a corpse?

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Disasturbator
#142663: Jun 3rd 2022 at 6:40:25 AM

Corpse because they're already dead

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Altris from the Vortex Since: Aug, 2019 Relationship Status: Not caught up in your love affair
#142664: Jun 3rd 2022 at 7:11:52 AM

Probably the Snap would act like a pause button. So say someone's having a fatal stroke and they get Snapped in the middle of it, the stroke just "finishes" after the Blip.

So, let's hang an anchor from the sun... also my Tumblr
Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#142665: Jun 3rd 2022 at 7:34:51 AM

If someone way dying before the Snap they'd still be dying after it.

I suppose there's the weird metaphysics of when they'd show up in the explicitly real in the MCU afterlife (or did half the population spend 5 years in the afterlife only to be yanked back to the world of the living and forget the experience?), which I don't have a good answer for.

Edited by Falrinn on Jun 3rd 2022 at 7:35:17 AM

dcutter2 Since: Sep, 2013
#142666: Jun 3rd 2022 at 7:45:06 AM

Unless Bruce did some to explicitly save them, they'd still be dying.

But Bruce might actually be able to save them Word of God is that he made sure every one lived and didn't day materialise in mid-air and fall to their death because they were flying during the snap.

(That said I don't consider Word Of God especially reliable especially for Endgame where everyone had different idea wtf was going on with old Steve)

Altris from the Vortex Since: Aug, 2019 Relationship Status: Not caught up in your love affair
#142667: Jun 3rd 2022 at 7:47:42 AM

The "actually Bruce made sure everyone was safe, don't worry about it" Word of God does seem like No Endor Holocaust.

So, let's hang an anchor from the sun... also my Tumblr
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Funny but not helpful
#142668: Jun 3rd 2022 at 7:48:15 AM

I’m fine with buying into this word of god because the logical alternative is way too needlessly grim

It’s the take that something in the vein of the Authority or Irredeemable would do with the same setup

No Endor holocaust is a thing for a reason

Edited by Bocaj on Jun 3rd 2022 at 10:49:12 AM

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Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#142669: Jun 3rd 2022 at 8:40:44 AM

I feel like I can say with certainty that Steve is gonna be dead by the time Captain America 4 comes out.

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#142670: Jun 3rd 2022 at 8:43:14 AM

Nah, he's going to be right where we left him: Living it up in his secret moon base.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#142671: Jun 3rd 2022 at 8:44:47 AM

Can’t wait for the Fantastic Four movie where they take a trip to the red, white, and blue area of the Moon

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dcutter2 Since: Sep, 2013
#142672: Jun 3rd 2022 at 9:35:05 AM

I feel like I can say with certainty that Steve is gonna be dead by the time Captain America 4 comes out.

We're never seeing Steve again because Chris Evans has retired from the role (excepting animation with a sound-alike like What If...? or other mutliversal recasting hijinks)

What I was referring to was whether old Steve had taken the long path back to meet Sam despite time travel creating alternative timelines, or whether he'd lived in an alternative timeline until it's Peggy died and then back to the main one but not to the pad for some reason. Apparently different directors and writers involved in Endgame have said different things.

blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#142673: Jun 3rd 2022 at 9:40:34 AM

I mean, this timeline would have been the target of a raid just like this timeline raided other timelines, probably. If there really are infinitely timelines.

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#142674: Jun 3rd 2022 at 9:49:36 AM

[up][up] I'll be honest, Josh Keaton did his best, but I didn't think he sounded like Chris Evans in the slightest. Most of the new actors for old characters did a great job, but both him and Ross Marquand weren't a perfect match imo.

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dcutter2 Since: Sep, 2013
#142675: Jun 3rd 2022 at 9:51:55 AM

[up] Whoever did Spider-Man was the one I was most impressed with. Didn't realise it wasn't him until I saw the credits.


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