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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#142326: May 17th 2022 at 12:41:16 AM

[up][up]I wasn't suggesting that. Just that Human Torch and Angel vs Namor happened around the same time period as Captain America (either before he got the super-soldier serum, while he was just a propaganda piece, or after he got frozen in ice), not necessarily that they ever met Steve.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on May 17th 2022 at 12:42:21 PM

Hawkeye86 Spirit of Battle from Classified (Searching for Spock) Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
Spirit of Battle
#142327: May 17th 2022 at 10:32:39 AM

First look promo pic and synopsis for Echo has been released.

https://www.spoilertv.com/2022/05/echo-first-look-promotional-photo.html

Streaming exclusively on Disney, the origin story of Echo revisits Maya Lopez, whose ruthless behavior in New York City catches up with her in her hometown. She must face her past, reconnect with her Native American roots and embrace the meaning of family and community if she ever hopes to move forward. Echo also stars Chaske Spencer (Wild Indian, The English), Tantoo Cardinal (Killers of the Flower Moon, Stumptown), Devery Jacobs (FX’s Reservation Dogs, American Gods) and Cody Lightning (Hey, Viktor!, Four Sheets to the Wind), with Graham Greene (1883, Goliath) and Zahn Mc Clarnon (Dark Winds, FX’s Reservation Dogs).

Episodes of the series are directed by Sydney Freeland (Navajo) and Catriona Mc Kenzie (Gunaikurnai). Executive producers are Kevin Feige, Louis D’Esposito, Victoria Alonso, Brad Winderbaum, Stephen Broussard, Richie Palmer, Marion Dayre, and Jason Gavin (Blackfeet). Co-executive producers are Amy Rardin, Sydney Freeland, Christina King (Seminole), and Jennifer Booth.

Edited by Hawkeye86 on May 17th 2022 at 1:33:07 PM

You and I remember Budapest very differently
HasturHasturHastur from Wheah the fahkin baby wheel is, Jay Since: Nov, 2010
#142328: May 17th 2022 at 10:39:36 AM

[up]I'm hoping for it to be part gritty Netflix-style Cape Punk, part rez drama. This would also be a good place to have Frank Castle return, since Maya seems like the kind of person he'd identify with and try to mentor.

Edited by HasturHasturHastur on May 17th 2022 at 10:42:47 AM

Deathcon Since: Sep, 2020
#142329: May 17th 2022 at 11:15:08 AM

[up]It is more likely Punisher would try to kill her at first because of her mafia connections and criminal past.

HasturHasturHastur from Wheah the fahkin baby wheel is, Jay Since: Nov, 2010
#142330: May 17th 2022 at 11:18:49 AM

[up] Frank's way less of a moral absolutist here, though I could see it starting out that way based off her prior associations. It'd probably be a Fire-Forged Friends kinda deal when something goes down that forces them to work together.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#142331: May 17th 2022 at 12:27:18 PM

Her ruthless behaviour of wanting revenge on her father's murderer?

Which, manipulated into it or not, Clint still did.

In fact, I don't think she hurts or kills anyone else during the entire thing, besides maybe Fisk.

One Strip! One Strip!
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#142332: May 17th 2022 at 12:33:07 PM

Imagine if the reason we'd not seen Nemor in the MCU is that he was actually imprisoned somewhere and the snap released him

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#142333: May 17th 2022 at 12:34:09 PM

I'm not sure if Jon Bernthal would want to reprise his role as the Punisher if it isn't exclusively R-rated. And given Fisk's less-than-impressive reappearance, I'd say he has reasonable incentive to hold off.

I kinda hope Valentina shows up in this show, if only to more clearly establish the relationship between her and Kingpin. Outside of that, the show sounds like a neat idea. Here's hoping it comes through.

Edited by MatthewWayne on May 17th 2022 at 12:36:50 PM

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
HasturHasturHastur from Wheah the fahkin baby wheel is, Jay Since: Nov, 2010
#142334: May 17th 2022 at 12:35:00 PM

[up][up][up]I mean, she was also an enforcer for Fisk and probably made plenty of other enemies there who are actively hunting for her at a time when she really doesn't need that kind of trouble.

Edited by HasturHasturHastur on May 17th 2022 at 12:35:26 PM

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#142336: May 17th 2022 at 3:04:34 PM

Watched the trailer,felt it didn't grab me as a concept,kind of underwhelming

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#142337: May 17th 2022 at 3:09:44 PM

So far, I'll admit it looks pretty funny so far! Though I am a bit confused, I thought Jennifer wasn't a fan of being herself as opposed to She-Hulk?

Also like how Bruce still has some of that Ragnarok-Endgame goofy energy. Either it's Thor rubbing off on him, or the merging of his personalities has made the Hulk side more of a prankster. Either way, I do hope he gets to do some more action than in Endgame.

Will this show work? I dunno. But so far, I definitely feel more invested in this than Ms. Marvel.

Edited by MatthewWayne on May 17th 2022 at 3:12:24 AM

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#142338: May 17th 2022 at 3:23:08 PM

Jen in her first solo preferred being herself initially and felt like turning into She-Hulk was ruining her life

Until her life spiraled into the garbage and then she preferred being She-Hulk as a way to escape that

And pretty much after that she preferred being She-Hulk 24/7

Almost no She-Hulk stuff takes inspiration from her first run but maybe this show is

Edited by Bocaj on May 17th 2022 at 6:24:15 AM

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
The Ultimate Lifeform
#142339: May 17th 2022 at 3:25:27 PM

Oh, I'm hyped for this now. It looks like a lot of fun. Though I do hope Jennifer not being happy with her powers is a temporary thing, otherwise that'd feel like a bit too much of a departure from her comics self.

CGI looks a bit wonky but I don't really mind.

When we're done, there won't be anything left.
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#142340: May 17th 2022 at 3:30:24 PM

Going by what we see from the second half of the trailer, I'm sure she's gonna learn to love her green self.

Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#142341: May 17th 2022 at 3:42:25 PM

The fact that her hair gets yassified when she Hulks out is kind of funny. It looks really stiff.

Edited by Synchronicity on May 17th 2022 at 5:44:08 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#142342: May 17th 2022 at 3:47:40 PM

Frogman the hero we need

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/screenshot_20220517_180318_youtube.jpg

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
HasturHasturHastur from Wheah the fahkin baby wheel is, Jay Since: Nov, 2010
#142343: May 17th 2022 at 4:33:41 PM

[up] I'd be pretty amused if the Ani-Men actually entered the MCU.

GeneralGigan Godzilla from A New Empire Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Godzilla
#142344: May 17th 2022 at 8:43:36 PM

[up] Brute Force movie when?

SKREEEEEEEONK!
fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Google "big ears"
#142345: May 17th 2022 at 9:03:25 PM

Is She-Hulk like the fourth or fifth Phase 4 show/movie Wong makes an appearance in? Lol is he the new Fury now?

Edited by fasoman1996 on May 17th 2022 at 1:03:53 PM

Uni cat
DoubleOG (Apprentice)
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#142347: May 17th 2022 at 9:10:35 PM

[up][up]

I didn't see Wong. I saw Abomination (monster and man forms) but not Wong.

One Strip! One Strip!
fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Google "big ears"
#142348: May 17th 2022 at 9:12:34 PM

Not in the trailer but the overview confirms he will be in the show.

Edited by fasoman1996 on May 17th 2022 at 1:12:47 PM

Uni cat
fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#142349: May 17th 2022 at 9:15:34 PM

[up]SHOW ME

Trans rights are human rights. TV Tropes is not a place for bigotry, cruelty, or dickishness, no matter who or their position.
Whowho Since: May, 2012
#142350: May 18th 2022 at 4:31:44 AM

Her hair quadrupling in volume is spot on.

I'm disappointed by how slim and untonned she looks, I was kind of hoping for a bit more of a power fantasy.

But it does look fun, which is what She Hulk should be.

Interesting to see Bruce isn't wearing his arm splint anymore.

In other news that cast for Echo looks amazing. Seems it's goig to mostly take place on her family's reservation.


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