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Welcome to the main discussion thread for the Marvel Cinematic Universe! This pinned post is here to establish some basic guidelines. All of the Media Forum rules still apply.

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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#142201: May 12th 2022 at 11:07:18 AM

At least the Infinity Stones were actually spread out across the universe, and weren't initially all on Earth at the same time. In fact, before the Battle of New York happened, we only had two of them: Time and Space.

Wait a second...only Time and Space were on Earth before 2012. Hmm...maybe there's some kind of symbolism here that I'm not getting.

Edited by MatthewWayne on May 12th 2022 at 11:08:33 AM

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blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#142203: May 12th 2022 at 4:25:38 PM

Humans too stupid to have any mind, power, or soul lmao

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#142204: May 12th 2022 at 4:35:02 PM

Its kinda funny how everyone constantly goes that Earth is this backwater planet that no one respects.

Like the opposite extreme of Earth being the center of the universe.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#142205: May 12th 2022 at 7:18:20 PM

[up][up] And they're too delusional to perceive what reality truly is.

Edited by MatthewWayne on May 12th 2022 at 7:23:41 AM

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
Kiobi20 Since: Sep, 2016
#142206: May 12th 2022 at 7:39:03 PM

Illuminati in the MCU

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/static_assets_upload1407099779983932350_7.jpg

Mod note: Edited to hide spoilers.

Edited by MacronNotes on May 12th 2022 at 11:21:16 AM

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#142207: May 12th 2022 at 7:55:47 PM

Uh, fucking spoilers. I still haven't seen Dr. Strange 2, and probably won't until its out on Disney+.

ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
#142208: May 12th 2022 at 7:59:05 PM

[up][up]Yeah, the movie hasn't even been out for one week yet. Probably early to be dropping open spoilers, especially in the main MCU thread.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#142209: May 12th 2022 at 8:03:09 PM

[up][up][up] So normal in their portrayal really.

The Illuminati in general are a bunch of incompetent rubes who could only barely hold back the Incursions while guys Doctor Doom were able to figure out actual solutions before they ever did.

Plus they pissed off the Hulk.

Edited by slimcoder on May 12th 2022 at 8:06:36 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Kiobi20 Since: Sep, 2016
#142210: May 12th 2022 at 8:19:15 PM

Sorry, I thought enough time had passed, it's already been a week where I live do you want me to erase it?

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#142211: May 12th 2022 at 9:37:52 PM

Rule of thumb: in the work's thread, wait a week or two; in general threads, wait a month or three.

Edited by Zeromaeus on May 12th 2022 at 12:40:07 PM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#142212: May 13th 2022 at 9:36:52 AM

I generally go by:

  • TV Show: 1 week, give it take (or specifically, spoilers for the previous episode become fair game after the next episode comes out).
  • Movie: 1 month, give or take.

And to generally not cross post spoilers at all until about when people in the work’s own thread are comfortable talking about them without spoiler tags.

fanman "To watch it all burn." from Earth-Prime/Earth-1218 Since: Feb, 2022 Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
"To watch it all burn."
#142213: May 13th 2022 at 11:44:08 AM

[up]X9 On the Loki Fridge page, someone pointed out that He Who Remains is a case of the whole Humans Are Special despite our supposed inferiority taken to its logical conclusion in the darkest way possible. He Who Remains showed that humans, despite our weaknesses compared to other species, are capable of great things those species could never do. It's just that his achievement was chaining the entirety of spacetime, and no one, human, Asgardian, Kree, or Titan has free will, and his menace is so great, Thanos is a playground bully in comparison.

Edited by fanman on May 13th 2022 at 11:51:47 AM

ECD Since: Nov, 2021
#142214: May 13th 2022 at 7:35:43 PM

There's been a lot of talk about Young Avengers team ups in the MCU. Has something actually been announced for that and I just missed it?

Laying my cards on the table, I really dislike child superheroes as I can't turn off the part of my brain which says 'child endangerment' or 'child soldiers' but I really enjoy the MCU and they've earned a lot of trust from me...

lbssb The sleepiest good boi Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
The sleepiest good boi
#142215: May 13th 2022 at 7:41:14 PM

Nothing's been announced, but a lot of Young Avengers related characters are being introduced lately and it doesn't seem to be coincidental.

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HasturHasturHastur from Wheah the fahkin baby wheel is, Jay Since: Nov, 2010
#142216: May 13th 2022 at 7:46:37 PM

Yeah, Young Avengers and Midnight Sons have had an awful lot of their people entering the MCU over the past few years and they're the two teams that have been rumored the most. The Dark Avengers and/or Thunderbolts may also have some clues indicating their future formation, but that is more open to speculation.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#142217: May 13th 2022 at 7:55:28 PM

[up][up][up] Though it should be noted the Young Avengers aren't necessarily associated with the Avengers and will do superhero stuff without regard with the adults permission.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
HasturHasturHastur from Wheah the fahkin baby wheel is, Jay Since: Nov, 2010
#142218: May 13th 2022 at 7:57:47 PM

Plus at least a few of them will be legally adults anyways.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#142219: May 13th 2022 at 8:27:11 PM

[up][up]

That's pretty much every teen hero group however.

Especially since the Avengers just exist to mouthed off to by everyone these days.

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ECD Since: Nov, 2021
#142220: May 13th 2022 at 8:38:02 PM

[up][up]And them I don't mind. The other ones, yeah, I hate it so much. The less governments/authority figures are involved the less I hate it, but if they really do go the 'well, let's bring in Wanda's twins' route (who are what, ten?) then I'm going to be pretty grumpy. But that's a personal preference.

MurlocAggroB from the second-most ridiculous province of Canada Since: May, 2015
#142221: May 13th 2022 at 9:15:22 PM

[up] I mean technically they're like five days old.

This might be an unpopular opinion, I have no love lost if they never show up again. Or at least, never show up with superpowers.

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MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#142222: May 13th 2022 at 9:20:10 PM

I know some people here have been speculating that this new "arc" for the MCU might culminate in "Young Avengers vs. Dark Avengers", which could be a really interesting debate from a sociopolitical point of view.

On the one hand, having several superheroes under the direct thumb of the government after the Sokovia Accords proved just how useless and short-sighted Thunderbolt Ross and the UN were in stopping Thanos would definitely be points against the Dark Avengers. Also, using said Dark Avengers to do unsavory things on behalf of whoever's in charge might not go so well with the general public, especially after Project Insight.

On the other hand, you can't deny that trying to make a Super Team of superempowered kids with minimal oversight to try and save the world isn't exactly ideal either. Even the most skilled of the younger heroes so far have made some pretty severe screw-ups, and most people might not want to trust that.

So if Marvel goes this direction, this would be an interesting debate both in-universe and out.

Edited by MatthewWayne on May 13th 2022 at 9:25:22 AM

"I'm Mr. Blue, woah-woah-ooh..."
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#142223: May 13th 2022 at 9:27:45 PM

I really want Billy to show up.

Tommy I can take or leave, but I wanna see Tommy's whole wizard thing and his marriage with Teddy/Hulkling show up.

Come on give us the King of Space with his gay wizard husband consort Marvel.

Edited by slimcoder on May 13th 2022 at 9:27:55 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#142224: May 13th 2022 at 9:44:43 PM

Speed: forever the second fiddle, after thought, and lesser loved son.

WHO SHOULDN'T HAVE QUICKSILVER'S POWERS.

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
Nightwire Since: Feb, 2010

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