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Since Thor and now Captain America came out this year, I wanted to get what Tropers thought of the concept and execution of the Marvel Cinematic Universe in general. Personally I love the idea and wonder why this idea hasn't been seriously tried before. It sorta seems to me like the DCAU in movie form (And well, ummm, with Marvel), and really 'gets' the comic book feel of a shared universe while not being completely alienating.

Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM

HasturHasturHastur from Wheah the fahkin baby wheel is, Jay Since: Nov, 2010
#141976: May 3rd 2022 at 11:48:25 AM

[up]With Norman Osborn so far MIA (probably forever), who would be the most likely to take his place at the conclusion if it leads to Dark Reign?

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#141977: May 3rd 2022 at 11:56:55 AM

Psylocke being mentioned a couple pages back, I'm curious how Captain Brittan would be handled.

From what I hear he's more a fantasy character dealing with stuff like Avalon as well as the Captain Britain Corps.

He's also Psylock/Betsy's twin brother so it be interesting if they also made him half-Japanese.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
ArthurEld Since: May, 2014
#141978: May 3rd 2022 at 12:00:43 PM

[up][up]There's no reason to think it will lead to Dark Reign, or that marvel has any plans to do an adaptation of that story.

We don't even know who half the actors in Secret Invasion are playing yet, it's early to speculate on what series might come out of it. Especially when it's being said they're going for something smaller scale, which makes sense given the showrunner's previous work.

Like, I'm 92% certain POTUS will be replaced by a Skrull at some point, but I wouldn't speculate on how that will end up or be played in future stories.

Hodor2 Since: Jan, 2015
#141979: May 3rd 2022 at 12:05:49 PM

Regarding the Skrulls and genre throwbacks, I have no idea whether it was a specific influence, but the take on them in Captain Marvel made me think of Alien Nation, as well as a number of comedies from the 90's where amusing alien protagonists are targeted by overzealous government agents. Thinking of things like Coneheads, My Favorite Martian, and Muppets From Space.

And I think it's clever how Carol and Fury basically think they are the heroes in a work where aliens are part of a sinister conspiracy (i.e. V or They Live!), but are actually characters in this kind of comedy.

HasturHasturHastur from Wheah the fahkin baby wheel is, Jay Since: Nov, 2010
#141980: May 3rd 2022 at 12:18:07 PM

[up][up][up]Just have Betsy remain in her original body instead of swapping with Kwannon. Brian and Betsy could appear alongside Black Knight and start out there, and Meggan would probably also fit. I could see it being where the mystical and sci-fi sides of the MCU intersect, especially if one of the side effects of all this recent multiversal fuckery is that Mad Jim Jaspers either awakens his powers or threatens to invade from another universe.

Edited by HasturHasturHastur on May 3rd 2022 at 12:21:49 PM

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#141981: May 3rd 2022 at 12:22:09 PM

@Hastur: Those are all pretty sweet ideas. I'd dig seeing them.

...You know, people would probably make fun of it, but Batman could probably make for a pretty kickass musical if they were able to strike the right tone.

Jim Steinman actually proposed a Batman musical for eons back that I think had a good chance of being pretty great. Some of the songs got repurposed for Meatloaf's discography, and the proposed Villain Song for Gotham's corrupt elite is incredible:

(Also comical in hindsight after Morrison created Professor Pyg).

As far as Marvel goes (and aside from Dazzler) the Guardians of the Galaxy actually feel like they'd suit a Jukebox Musical pretty well given how musical their films are. Something like they reach a planet where everybody communicates in musical numbers and are forced to keep up with local customs.

Edited by Gaon on May 3rd 2022 at 12:22:22 PM

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#141982: May 3rd 2022 at 12:23:05 PM

Like how Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3 did it.

Psylocke whose playable has her Japanese appearance but also a British accent indicating that she is British-Japanese.

Its an easy fix to keep her iconic appearance without the whole body swap thing.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
HasturHasturHastur from Wheah the fahkin baby wheel is, Jay Since: Nov, 2010
#141983: May 3rd 2022 at 12:25:39 PM

[up]I honestly envision her and Brian being British-Indian, but maybe that's just my fan preference for Dev Patel and Naomi Scott speaking.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#141984: May 3rd 2022 at 12:27:25 PM

There’s probable value of making mystically appointed representative of queen, country, and universe descended from an immigrant family or however that would work

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HasturHasturHastur from Wheah the fahkin baby wheel is, Jay Since: Nov, 2010
#141985: May 3rd 2022 at 12:29:20 PM

[up]The Braddocks are an old money family and it's really not inconceivable that an old money British family would have a fair amount of South Asian in their genes by the present day.

Diana1969 Since: Apr, 2021 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#141986: May 3rd 2022 at 12:43:19 PM

Jim Steinman actually proposed a Batman musical for eons back that I think had a good chance of being pretty great. Some of the songs got repurposed for Meatloaf's discography, and the proposed Villain Song for Gotham's corrupt elite is incredible:

That's not even getting into how Prince's Batman album was originally going to be a collaboration with Michael Jackson, with Jackson on the hero songs and Prince on the villain songs.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#141987: May 3rd 2022 at 12:49:58 PM

Possibly even Skrulls impersonating each other

Oh, I'm hoping for that now. A last-second reveal that Talos's wife was impersonating the main villain's right-hand-man ever since the dramatic halfway point of the show where it looked like he killed her, but it was actually the other way around.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on May 3rd 2022 at 12:50:12 PM

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#141988: May 3rd 2022 at 12:59:16 PM

British-Indian is a relatively rare combo for superheroes. I'd be interested in seeing it.

That's not even getting into how Prince's Batman album was originally going to be a collaboration with Michael Jackson, with Jackson on the hero songs and Prince on the villain songs.

That's wild, never knew it.

Edited by Gaon on May 3rd 2022 at 12:59:42 PM

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#141989: May 3rd 2022 at 1:00:38 PM

[up][up] Really, any story or idea that gives Soren more screentime is a win in my book.

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HasturHasturHastur from Wheah the fahkin baby wheel is, Jay Since: Nov, 2010
#141990: May 3rd 2022 at 1:20:54 PM

Now that I think of it, a Captain Britain movie would also be a great place to introduce Nightcrawler, with a characterization that is much closer to the dashing gentleman hero of the comics than previous cinematic showings. We need fun, lighthearted Kurt here.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#141991: May 3rd 2022 at 1:43:41 PM

That's a good idea.

Him and Brian were founding members of the original Excalibur.

You know, they could go nuts and just do for Betsy what they did with Carol and have her be Captain Britain already.

How strong is Captain Britain supposed to be anyway? It's implied Betsy is stupid powerful now (and not just because she was already a powerful telepath before she got the Captain Britain powers), so I'm wondering where Captain Britain stands in Marvel's Super Strength hierarchy.

One Strip! One Strip!
XMenMutant22 The Feline Follies of Felix the Cat Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#141992: May 3rd 2022 at 1:47:45 PM

Pakistan will have an interesting release format for Ms. Marvel (2022):

(Director) Sharmeen Obaid-Chinoy has announced #Ms Marvel will be releasing exclusively in cinemas in Pakistan!

Disney and Marvel Studios will be specially creating a cinema format version of the six episode series for Pakistan, split into three parts! This decision was made to celebrate the introduction of the first Pakistani Marvel superhero, Kamala Khan. Disney and Marvel did not want Pakistani audiences to miss out on seeing #Ms Marvel and her story as Disney+ has not yet launched in their country.

Edited by XMenMutant22 on May 3rd 2022 at 4:49:15 AM

MatthewWayne The Tapestry Weaver from Camp Echo One Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Tapestry Weaver
#141993: May 3rd 2022 at 1:55:17 PM

[up] On the one hand, I do like that Marvel is trying to find a way for the people of Pakistan to see the hero that represents them in any way possible.

On the other hand, the last time Marvel tried to release episodic TV in a cinema format, it was Inhumans...

Edited by MatthewWayne on May 3rd 2022 at 1:55:35 AM

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#141994: May 3rd 2022 at 2:02:19 PM

It's fitting in a sense since Kamala is an Inhuman in the source material

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#141995: May 3rd 2022 at 2:24:50 PM

Yeah, but we all LIKE Kamala.

Nobody cared for the entire debacle with the Inhumans' push, but Kamala seems 100% exempt from that dislike.

I believe that, outside of the Royal Family and Moon Girl, she's the only Inhuman still alive.

Hell, outside of her (and again Moon-Girl), she's the only Nu-human who didn't get purged when Marvel did Death of the Inhumans.

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Mizerous Pet Owner from Hell Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Pet Owner
#141996: May 3rd 2022 at 2:31:52 PM

I wonder if the rumors about her power change will turn off fans.

Just Makima.
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#141997: May 3rd 2022 at 2:37:49 PM

Something I want the most in the MCU is a Captain Universe anthology series. Every episode features a different Captain Universe. Half of the Captain Universes are new and half are established characters in the MCU, though only one of those is an already-existing superhero.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on May 3rd 2022 at 2:41:13 AM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#141998: May 3rd 2022 at 2:48:31 PM

That could work.

Captain Universe is a great concept for an Anthology now that I think about it.

Especially with his The Hero that could be you tagline.

Kinda like that one version of Ultraman, who chose a different Human host every time. I can't remember his name though.

Actually, since Universe kinda came first, I guess it would be the other way around.

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HasturHasturHastur from Wheah the fahkin baby wheel is, Jay Since: Nov, 2010
#141999: May 3rd 2022 at 2:59:02 PM

[up][up][up]It looks like she's basically Quasar now too.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#142000: May 3rd 2022 at 2:59:18 PM

Which random MCU side-characters would make for the best Captain Universe episodes? Easy answer: Luis.


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