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Edited by Mrph1 on Jul 29th 2024 at 3:09:00 PM
Wasn't there a short bit in Iron Man 2 about Russia trying to make their own Iron Man to hilarihorrible results? And of course there's Vanko
Forever liveblogging the AvengersThe feeling I get is that Red Guardian is from the 1950's or 1960's, Kruschev years with the reforms, space programs and things like the Cuban Missile Crisis giving him legroom for super espionage (Kruschev's reforms might also explain Red Guardian's perspective that the Soviet Union used to be better as if he lived through it). As to why he's the only super soldier the Soviet Union apparently produced I'd go with the usual comic book thing that the Soviet formula was ridiculously volatile and lethal, killing off literally all of the subjects except Red Guardian and they could never strike the perfecet biological storm to replicate the process successfully.
This would make him probably old enough to have lived through WWII (or fought in it), so he might have been a regular WWII veteran/partisan.
"All you Fascists bound to lose."
Omega Red could either be a prototype or a different program that came later on and was aborted. My guess is William Burnside in this universe isn't remembered because they don't want him to be remembered - he was probably either a black ops agent doing gross shit for the CIA, or, like John Walker, he went insane. Either way, Burnside was a historical black mark and someone they wanted to unperson.
In the comics Omega Red is the counterpoint to Weapon X. Weapon X is generally a Vietnam War-era program c. the mid 70's to 80's. In fact his early appearance has it basically that Omega Red was the last soviet superhuman from the tail end of the 80's who was let loose upon the world in the general chaos of the Soviet Union's dissolution. It'd be fairly easy to keep that premise with some tweaks (like he's been locked up in some abandoned soviet lab for the past 30-40 years).
Agree on the Burnside thing.
Edited by Gaon on Apr 30th 2022 at 2:10:29 AM
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That, or if Red isn't locked in a lab, he's either another spook like the Winter Soldier doing wetworks jobs for some nefarious organization (or being hired out by them as a mercenary), or he's long dead and was killed by someone at some point between the early 1990s and mid 2000s, and will be a villain in a period piece. I guess it's conceivable that he could be a mercenary operating in the open, but Red is traditionally so crazy, destructive, and murderous that you'd think he'd be way more known.
Edited by HasturHasturHastur on Apr 30th 2022 at 2:16:25 AM
I'd like to see the Winter Guard in the MCU
If only for Ursa Major, the man with the superpower of being a bear
Forever liveblogging the AvengersProbably not ones that directly work for the government. Ex pats like Nat are probably fine.
Forever liveblogging the AvengersComics America is older and more experienced, while MCU America is younger and doesn’t seem to have unlocked her Flying Brick powers yet. Also obviously MCU America is going to age in real time unlike comics America. So they can’t be the same.
Like I said before, I write it off as non-comics media being in their own multiverse.
Characters who are multiversal singularities get kind of ridiculous when you realize that means any fanfic that features them is 100% canonical too.
Yes, even those ones.
Mojo of the Mojoverse was supposed to be one of those. Shadow King too.
X-Men seems to like this thing, based on two examples.
Forever liveblogging the AvengersI remember the ending of Gwenpool’s first run acknowledged this, as she was afraid she’d die if her comic stopped but her future self assured her she’d continue to appear in crossovers and fanfics.
Golly, if they ever adapt Gwenpool to the MCU the premise of how she was a real person transported into the comics is going to get even more complicated with her appearing in films and comics simultaneously, including a readapting of her origin.
Edited by Tuckerscreator on Apr 30th 2022 at 2:39:59 AM
Play it like Last Action Hero except almost nothing like most of that
Forever liveblogging the AvengersBurnside would be great in a Weapon X movie (i.e. doing XMO: Wolverine correctly) - after Weapon X dissolves and its survivors go on the run, people connected to it start getting brutally murdered left and right and it becomes a question of who is doing it, and it is eventually revealed that Burnside is being used as a cleaner to scour every last trace of Weapon X from the earth and it's up to the remaining survivors to stop him.
If they want to go with a "multiversal constant" thing, I think the only reasonable way to do it is with a smaller infinity. There are still an infinite number of America Chavez variants in the multiverse, but a significantly fewer number of universes have her. Just like how if there's an infinite number of planets, there would also be an infinite number of red planets. Both are numbers are infinite, but the number of red planets is also infinitely smaller.
That way you can have these large pockets where characters are unique, but can still tell alt continuity stories and have other media appearances. Given that Loki established that the multiverse is a physical space that you can travel through in some capacity, Earth-199999 might be far away from Earth-616 in a very literal sense.
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Think they tried to get their own Iron Man or Spider?
Wake me up at your own risk.